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Date:      Fri, 16 Mar 2001 14:01:03 -0800 (PST)
From:      John Baldwin <jhb@FreeBSD.org>
To:        Alfred Perlstein <bright@wintelcom.net>
Cc:        Kris Kennaway <kris@obsecurity.org>, Jordan Hubbard <jkh@osd.bsdi.com>, sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu, arch@FreeBSD.org, jkh@FreeBSD.org, Chris Dillon <cdillon@wolves.k12.mo.us>
Subject:   Re: NO MORE '-BETA'
Message-ID:  <XFMail.010316140103.jhb@FreeBSD.org>
In-Reply-To: <20010316134349.K29888@fw.wintelcom.net>

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On 16-Mar-01 Alfred Perlstein wrote:
> * John Baldwin <jhb@FreeBSD.ORG> [010316 13:40] wrote:
>> 
>> On 16-Mar-01 Chris Dillon wrote:
>> > On Fri, 16 Mar 2001, Kris Kennaway wrote:
>> > 
>> >> On Fri, Mar 16, 2001 at 10:41:24AM -0800, Jordan Hubbard wrote:
>> >> > > Ok, so we have reports of confusion on the mailing lists, usenet and
>> >> > > IRC.  Jordan, where can I pick up a set those blinders you have on?
>> >> >
>> >> > Chill, Albert.  I think we've already established that a) It's the
>> >> > newvers.sh "BETAness" that's really freaking people out and b) That
>> >> > you've yet to supply any practical name alternative, you're just
>> >> > whining about it at this point.
>> >>
>> >> I suggested "-PRERELEASE" as a more friendly alternative.
>> > 
>> > I suppose we could just keep it X.Y-STABLE right up until newvers.sh
>> > is changed and the X.(Y+1)-RELEASE tag is laid down immediately
>> > afterwards...  Obviously developers and others tracking -STABLE will
>> > already know when we're in a "BETA" stage (since they're on the
>> > appropriate mailing lists, or should be), others don't really need to
>> > be "bothered" with that fact.
>> 
>> You missed the need for the Y+1 bump for ports testing prior to release.
   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

>> Doing 4.2-stable -> 4.3-stable -> 4.3-release -> 4.3-stable doesn't make
>> much
>> sense.  Next..
> 
> He's saying 4.2-stable -> 4.3-release -> 4.3-stable -> 4.4 release ...
> 
> Which makes sense.

... which breaks all the ports testing since you missed the Y+1 bump prior
to release.  I've underlined it for you this time.

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