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Date:      Thu, 10 Dec 1998 17:19:21 +1030
From:      Greg Lehey <grog@lemis.com>
To:        Steve Price <sprice@hiwaay.net>, Joseph Koshy <jkoshy@FreeBSD.ORG>
Cc:        committers@hub.freebsd.org, vanmaren@fast.cs.utah.edu
Subject:   Re: Swat teams (was: problem reports)
Message-ID:  <19981210171921.M12688@freebie.lemis.com>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.OSF.4.02.9812100038010.3521-100000@fly.HiWAAY.net>; from Steve Price on Thu, Dec 10, 1998 at 12:44:21AM -0600
References:  <199812100546.VAA04000@hub.freebsd.org> <Pine.OSF.4.02.9812100038010.3521-100000@fly.HiWAAY.net>

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On Thursday, 10 December 1998 at  0:44:21 -0600, Steve Price wrote:
> On Wed, 9 Dec 1998, Joseph Koshy wrote:
>
> # > From what I've seen, the big problem is not the cases where people
> # > submit patches, but where they submit PRs with no fix and with hardly
> # > enough information to guess what the problem is (or even if there is a
> # > problem).
> #
> # There are many of those no doubt.  However, a lot of our PR submitters are
> # quite knowledgeable and do submit patches.  We should give PRs with patches
> # a higher priority.  Even if the patch is wrong, it is a sign that the PR
> # submitter did put in some work before filing the PR.
>
> Actually there are quite a few more good ones than bad ones.
> But you're right, working on PRs with fixes (and close counts
> too) is the best bang for our buck.

To a great extent this is a matter of definition.  Yesterday I was
wondering whether to submit an enhancement to ls which would enable
you to list files by size (ls -lS).  Sure, big deal, but some people
thought that it was silly that ls couldn't do this.  It was trivial to
implement, of course, and worked, but in the end I agreed with Jordan
that it wasn't the UNIX Way.

On the other hand, you could define this as more ``bang per buck''
than, say, finding why some people can't run sysctl -a correctly on
their systems.

Greg
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