From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 1 04:40:38 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61C1716A4CE for ; Fri, 1 Oct 2004 04:40:38 +0000 (GMT) Received: from s1.stradamotorsports.com (ip30.gte215.dsl-acs2.sea.iinet.com [209.20.215.30]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B96FB43D53 for ; Fri, 1 Oct 2004 04:40:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jcw@highperformance.net) Received: from [192.168.1.16] ([192.168.1.16])i914eX8m030337 for ; Thu, 30 Sep 2004 21:40:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jcw@highperformance.net) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 21:40:35 -0700 From: "Jason C. Wells" To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Message-ID: <61D1B42DE744CC8F770302FB@[192.168.1.16]> X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.1.5 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=4.0 tests=none version=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Subject: ACPI Flakiness / Loader X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Oct 2004 04:40:38 -0000 It's been a couple years since I have been active on the lists. I have been itching to get OpenAFS running on FreeBSD so I dove in with 5.2.1. I have never had a fresh binary install of FreeBSD in the -stable or -current branch fail to boot until just now. This system won't boot with ACPI. The loader doesn't seem to maintain my menu selection (Selection #2, ACPI disabled) from boot to boot so I must boot the system while sitting at the console. I am a bit dismayed. I never had to pay one iota of attention to the loader until now. I prefer to not have to fiddle bits on very fundamental code that keeps my system from booting. My request is this. Please don't enable flaky functionality by default. ACPI is openly stated as flaky and not uniformly implemented in the handbook. Also, please don't add any more gee-whiz to the loader. Trying to decipher where a system setting is being made in a language I do not know isn't especially fun. (If ACPI wasn't my issue, I don't suppose that I would care about the loader.) I'll get the system booting. No worries there. I just wish I didn't have to mess with this aspect of my system and from what I see, there is no sense to it. Later, Jason C. Wells