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charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable prad wrote: > On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 11:54:19 +0100 (CET) > Wojciech Puchar wrote: >=20 >> in my practice rejecting part of customers (those who are really >> "idiots") make sense. you get say 20% less money for 10 times less >> work. >> > exactly! > proper advocacy on a 'free' (or otherwise) system doesn't mean > accommodating ridiculous demands. there needs to be a certain level of = > sincerity on part of the customers. >=20 > only the right customers are always right. >=20 Heh. "The customer is /always/ right, even when they're wrong." The difference is that you give the idiot customers exactly what they ask for, and the good customers what they actually need.... Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enigCEEF203C7E74216B79EA0FB7 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEAREIAAYFAklGAWMACgkQ8Mjk52CukIw10ACeM5GZa4tF+JZJXiZue2MzqK7O C8YAnRWllxDwVwz95yyE12IKxppmsa8Y =h5SR -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigCEEF203C7E74216B79EA0FB7--