From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Nov 5 9:29:50 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from c527597-a.cstvl1.sfba.home.com (c527597-a.cstvl1.sfba.home.com [24.176.204.87]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A49437B41B; Mon, 5 Nov 2001 09:29:44 -0800 (PST) Received: (from bmah@localhost) by c527597-a.cstvl1.sfba.home.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fA5HThe09234; Mon, 5 Nov 2001 09:29:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bmah) Message-Id: <200111051729.fA5HThe09234@c527597-a.cstvl1.sfba.home.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: John Baldwin Cc: Wilko Bulte , "Bruce A. Mah" , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: CFR: Hardware notes update for Alpha architecture In-Reply-To: References: Comments: In-reply-to John Baldwin message dated "Mon, 05 Nov 2001 08:58:33 -0800." From: bmah@FreeBSD.org (Bruce A. Mah) Reply-To: bmah@FreeBSD.org X-Face: g~c`.{#4q0"(V*b#g[i~rXgm*w;:nMfz%_RZLma)UgGN&=j`5vXoU^@n5v4:OO)c["!w)nD/!!~e4Sj7LiT'6*wZ83454H""lb{CC%T37O!!'S$S&D}sem7I[A 2V%N&+ X-Image-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/Images/bmah-cisco-small.gif X-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="==_Exmh_-1937819328P"; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2001 09:29:43 -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --==_Exmh_-1937819328P Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii If memory serves me right, John Baldwin wrote: > >> > - I doubt USB ethernet was ever tested on Alpha. > >> > >> It hasn't been tested, but I would expect for it work as USB in general > >> works. > > > > This brings up the fundamental question what we want to list as > > supported: tested, or expected to just-work. Personally, I don't have any real strong feelings either way, but I've been proceeding more-or-less on the principle of "it's been tested", subject to the issue I raise below. > Well, if we only list one, it should be 'tested'. If we are going to list > both, then the 'expected to just-work' items should be either tagged as such > or > listed in a separate section. That separate section may require a good chunk > of DSSSL fu however. There's also the question of at what granularity should we be concerned with "tested" or "should work" or whatever. I'm trying to keep things on the granularity of drivers (or driver and bus combinations) if possible, rather than specific models of devices. Clearly, the more fine-grained we try to go, the more accurate we are, but it's also a lot more work, and it requires a lot more information. Personally, I'm about at the limit of my knowledge on the alpha platform. Bruce. PS. Thanks to everyone who's given feedback on my patch so far. I'll push out another patch in a few days (got a ${REALJOB} demo tomorrow). --==_Exmh_-1937819328P Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: Exmh version 2.3.1+ 05/14/2001 iD8DBQE75syH2MoxcVugUsMRAuAGAKDwy3eee67IMc2cfJvvYyVnSx9ZMACfdxw5 qL92vZFm6W+FkLlbKt6fz3g= =Ho2s -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --==_Exmh_-1937819328P-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message