Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2005 08:59:53 -0800 (PST) From: Danial Thom <danial_thom@yahoo.com> To: Ted Mittelstaedt <tedm@toybox.placo.com>, "Michael C. Shultz" <ringworm01@gmail.com>, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: "Daniel A." <ldrada@gmail.com>, Andy Sjostrom <andy_sjostrom@yahoo.com> Subject: RE: BSD Question's. Message-ID: <20051226165953.36072.qmail@web33301.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <LOBBIFDAGNMAMLGJJCKNEEBPFDAA.tedm@toybox.placo.com>
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--- Ted Mittelstaedt <tedm@toybox.placo.com> wrote: > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On > Behalf Of Danial Thom > >Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2005 7:34 AM > >To: Michael C. Shultz; > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > >Cc: Daniel A.; Andy Sjostrom > >Subject: Re: BSD Question's. > > > > > > > > > >--- "Michael C. Shultz" <ringworm01@gmail.com> > >wrote: > > > >> On Saturday 24 December 2005 06:54, Daniel > A. > >> wrote: > >> > Hi Andy, > >> > > >> > I am sorry for the trouble you have had > with > >> Windows XP. > >> > > >> > I suggest that you use Linux, as FreeBSD > >> really is not targeted at > >> > people who want to use graphical user > >> interfaces. > >> > >> In a few key areas FreeBSD is a better > desktop > >> OS than Linux: Easier to keep > >> the kernel/world and installed ports up to > date > >> for example without having > >> to resort to the microsoft/Linux fixall > method > >> of removing and reinstalling > >> everything every now and again. Your > opinion > >> is correct IMO that FreeBSD > >> managers put most emphasis on FreeBSD as a > >> server and little as a desktop. > >> My guess is because donations(cash) and > >> hardware support for developers > >> come from people who want servers while > people > >> who want a desktop OS tend to > >> donate squat.... > >> > >> > The linux developers really have been > trying > >> to make a valuable > >> > replacement for Windows, as they somehow > have > >> experienced the same > >> > issues with Windows (And Microsoft > products > >> in general) that you have. > >> > > >> > One Linux distribution in particular that > I > >> think you might like, is > >> > Ubuntu. You can download it at > >> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/, or order a > >> > CD (Free shipping, free CD, you pay > nothing). > >> > >> Advertising Linux in a FreeBSD mailing list? > > >> Sounds like you may have more of > >> axe to grind against the FreeBSD management > >> folk than a desire to offer sound > >> advice.... > >> > >> -Mike > > > >Why not just tell the truth, which is that > >Windows XP is the best that you can do for the > >desktop, and that there is no perfect solution > >that works perfectly in every scenario? > > This ignores a very important fact: the needs > of > a home user for a desktop OS are rapidly > becoming > very different than the needs of a corporation > for > a desktop OS. > > Windows XP is the best desktop OS you can have > on > the $499.99 computers that they sell with the > operating > system preloaded down at Best Buy, and that are > purchased > by the typical home user. > > But it is a serious problem for the average > corporation. > Many of them are deploying Microsoft Terminal > Server > and using Winterms, or Linux systems running > remote > desktop, terminal served into the TS. > > In this manner they can provide the user with > access to the apps that they are trained on, > such > as Word, Excel, PowerPoint, etc. in a > controlled > fashion that does not permit the user to > download > the latest virus-of-the-month, or crap-up their > system with the latest screen-saver from the > Weather channel that tanks the Internet > connection > every 3 minutes downloading a 1MB jpg file of > the > weather in San Francisco. This thinking is more about the lack of innovation of consultants and network staff than necessity. There are simple filters and bandwidth management that can manage networks at the egress without having to adulterate your network with a lot of crap like this. What you do on the intranet and how you interact outside of your local network are mutually exclusive components. With laptops being so prevalent now; the ability to allow users to pop a standard machine onto a corporate network is absolutely ESSENTIAL for maximum productivity. The ability to transparently protect your users without having to deploy "different" equipment than standard XP-type desktops is what separates the men from the boys. Something important to understand is that what "corporations" do is a function of the talent that they have making recommendations. Its not necessarily the "right" thing; in fact is almost never is. What's ironic is that "corporations" hire cheaper consultants who end up making them spend much more in the long run because of their lack of innovation. DT __________________________________ Yahoo! for Good - Make a difference this year. http://brand.yahoo.com/cybergivingweek2005/
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