From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 9 14:18:16 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8EC037B401 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 14:18:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.netcologne.de (smtp.netcologne.de [194.8.194.112]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 766B343E31 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 14:18:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tmseck-lists@netcologne.de) Received: from localhost (xdsl-213-168-110-105.netcologne.de [213.168.110.105]) by smtp.netcologne.de (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g69LHwGL024531 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 23:17:59 +0200 (MEST) Received: (qmail 854 invoked by uid 1001); 9 Jul 2002 20:44:17 -0000 Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 22:44:17 +0200 From: Thomas Seck To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: No root crontab in 4.6-RELEASE? Message-ID: <20020709204417.GA778@laurel.tmseck.homedns.org> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20020708152752.X84324-100000@zoot.corp.yahoo.com> <3D2AE910.BF80794A@mitre.org> <20020709161746.GA444@laurel.tmseck.homedns.org> <200207091651.g69Gp3Lg052679@apollo.backplane.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200207091651.g69Gp3Lg052679@apollo.backplane.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Organization: private site in Germany X-PGP-KeyID: DF46EE05 X-PGP-Fingerprint: A38F AE66 6B11 6EB9 5D1A B67D 2444 2FE1 DF46 EE05 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG * Matthew Dillon (dillon@apollo.backplane.com): > :* Jason Andresen (jandrese@mitre.org): > : > :[/etc/crontab vs. crontab -u root] > : > :> ??? More visible? New people to the system can never find that file. > :> Heck, I'm always forgetting where it is. It wouldn't be so bad if > :> it just weren't so inconsistent. > : > :See cron(8), second paragraph. > /etc/crontab should probably not be touched, nor should /etc/periodic, > or upgrading the system will be nightmware. Did I state any claims on how I use roots crontab? Yes, I confess: I do maintain modified versions of /etc/crontab, simply because I can put them easily under version control. The same applies for almost every configuration file in /etc. I do this since 4.0 and found mergemaster a pretty fine tool for dealing with /etc/ during updates. But this is completely irrelevant here. The author of the message I replied to claimed that the existence of /etc/crontab was a secret unveiled only to true wizards of OS. This is wrong. See cron(8), second paragraph: "[...] Cron also searches /etc/crontab...". The original poster obviously did not bother to read this document. Failing to read documentation and posting false claims on a public mailing list is a behaviour that drives me up the wall. > If you want to use the > periodic mechanisms you can create your own periodic directory > hierarchy ala /usr/local/etc/periodic, and if you just want to mess > with your own root crontab you should use 'crontab -e' as root. If > you want to override the system default /etc/periodic you can create > your own /etc/periodic.conf (else the system uses the default > /etc/defaults/periodic.conf). Matthew, please do not try to over interpret my message. I am in fact a great fan of the periodic(8) framework and use it for local maintenance scripts. But this thread is not about periodic(8). > It's simple. See man periodic.conf. I know how to read man pages, thank you. -- Thomas Seck This message was sent to a mailinglist I am subscribed to. Please send your replies to the list - and do *not* CC me. Thank you. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message