From owner-freebsd-chat Tue Feb 2 21:33:28 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA23264 for freebsd-chat-outgoing; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 21:33:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from cactus.verinet.com (cactus.verinet.com [204.144.246.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA23258 for ; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 21:33:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from allenc@verinet.com) Received: from verinet.com ([206.168.245.19]) by cactus.verinet.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA16783; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 22:32:49 -0700 Message-ID: <36B7DF77.6EEFAEE2@verinet.com> Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 22:32:39 -0700 From: Allen Campbell X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.7-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Terry Lambert CC: chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Regarding Promoting KDE - Wait, why not GNUstep? References: <199902021901.MAA07100@usr05.primenet.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Terry Lambert wrote: > > > Okay, so KDE might be easy to use for newbies coming from Window > > 95/98/NT because it sort of looks alike, but why add an enviroment that > > slows down the system? > > Because Kirk McKusick has promised that the number of MIPS that > are delivered to the keyboard has remained constant since 1974, > and we intend to keep his promise as processors get faster. It's > now a holy obligation. > > 8-). No coercion required; I only suggest it might make a nice default (not standard, not required, just default) desktop. Alternatives should be available. The key is to have the user presented with something more engaging than a csh prompt after installation. I could basically care less which specific environment it is, but I happen to think KDE is a better start. > Seriously, graphical doesn't imply Microsoft Windows. > > If you have alternatives, and good arguments for those alternatives, > then, why, it's time for a contest! > > > KDE is probably alot farther ahead than the GNUstep team, but with > > more help maybe it will move forward faster. > > I have to say that those KDE guys are maniacs. You really need to > go look at the current status of "KOffice". I have to agree. The amount of work coming out of that project is overwhelming. A KDE user make take for granted that they built there own web browser! :) A bit of NIH there perhaps. I wonder if they have considered welding that NGLayout stuff from Mozzila into the kfm framework... > I'm not positive, but these might be the same nuts who brought us the > ASCII art VGA emulator for Televideo/VT100 terminals... truly the type > of hackers we had in the US back in the early to mid 80's... -- Allen Campbell | Remember parents; do not 'over shake' allenc@verinet.com | your infant. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message