From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 4 10:26:08 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5048D55 for ; Sun, 4 Nov 2012 10:26:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from adams-freebsd@ateamsystems.com) Received: from fss.sandiego.ateamservers.com (fss.sandiego.ateamservers.com [69.55.229.149]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 815B78FC0A for ; Sun, 4 Nov 2012 10:26:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.15.220] (gw.digitalspark.net [118.175.84.92]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by fss.sandiego.ateamservers.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 49DACBBAAC; Sun, 4 Nov 2012 05:26:06 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <509642C2.4000903@ateamsystems.com> Date: Sun, 04 Nov 2012 17:26:10 +0700 From: Adam Strohl User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121010 Thunderbird/16.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Karl Denninger Subject: Re: Why is SU+J undesirable on SSDs? References: <201211032130.PAA04484@lariat.net> <50959B63.9070709@denninger.net> In-Reply-To: <50959B63.9070709@denninger.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Brett Glass , stable@freebsd.org, Jeff Roberson X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Nov 2012 10:26:08 -0000 On 11/4/2012 5:32, Karl Denninger wrote: > It is utter insanity to enable, by default, filesystem options that > break _*the canonical backup solution*_ in the handbook ("dump", when > used with "-L", which it must be to dump a live filesystem SAFELY.) Exactly. -- Adam Strohl http://www.ateamsystems.com/