From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 11 10:27:32 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1748737B401; Mon, 11 Aug 2003 10:27:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mta6.adelphia.net (mta6.adelphia.net [64.8.50.190]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33C3243FB1; Mon, 11 Aug 2003 10:27:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from potentialtech.com ([24.53.179.151]) by mta6.adelphia.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.32 201-253-122-126-132-20030307) with ESMTP id <20030811172731.OPYN8257.mta6.adelphia.net@potentialtech.com>; Mon, 11 Aug 2003 13:27:31 -0400 Message-ID: <3F37D202.1080104@potentialtech.com> Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 13:27:30 -0400 From: Bill Moran User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.3) Gecko/20030429 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Robert Watson References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: Mike Silbersack cc: chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD Security Advisory FreeBSD-SA-03:09.signal X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 17:27:32 -0000 Robert Watson wrote: > On Mon, 11 Aug 2003, Mike Silbersack wrote: > >>On Mon, 11 Aug 2003, Robert Watson wrote: >> >>>pretty secure. I was thinking about writing one while driving to work >>>today; I may get around to it this evening sometime, unless someone else >> >>Your driving habits are dangerous, Robert. Please stop programming >>while driving, you're going to get someone killed. > > Hey, if you want unusual computing activities from cars, try this one on. > While driving home from the Shenandoah Valley this weekend, we ran into > car problems. While waiting for roadside service, I pulled out my > notebook, found two access points, and submitted changes on our > integration of MAC support into IPsec in Perforce. I ran into about 60 > wireless devices on the drive back, of which 35 were APs. 60% of these > didn't use WEP. Unfortunately, at 65+ miles an hour, you don't get a > whole lot of time to talk to each AP to see if you can get a lease, etc. You encorage me, Rob. Your story tells me that the "law of percentages" is in my favor. It's the same theory that has sold so many car "club"s. If I set up the wireless networks I install with any measure of security whatsoever, it's unlikely that they'll get attacked/cracked simply because there are so many other easy targets. :) -- Bill Moran Potential Technologies http://www.potentialtech.com