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Date:      Tue, 27 Jun 1995 12:18:33 -0400
From:      "matthew c. mead" <mmead@Glock.COM>
To:        asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami)
Cc:        ports@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: gm4 & fvwm
Message-ID:  <199506271618.MAA10594@Glock.COM>
In-Reply-To: Your message of Tue, June 27, 1995 01:55:53 -0700
References:  <199506270509.BAA05510@Glock.COM> <199506270855.BAA01428@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU>

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On Tue, June 27, 1995 at 01:55:53 (-0700), Satoshi Asami wrote:
 >  * 	Since fvwm is built with m4 support, and the BSD m4 contains
 >  * considerably less functionality than the gnu m4, how about making fvwm
 >  * depend on gnu m4 and then make it exec that at startup instead of m4?

 > Actually, this applies to most of the *wm's in /usr/ports/x11 (AFAIK,
 > ctwm, tvtwm and piewm all use m4, what about olvwm?).  I think this is
 > a good extension than can be very useful, with a relatively small
 > one-time cost (fetching & compiling of gm4) for the user, although it
 > may be overkill for some of the non-power users.

	That's true.  I wouldn't say that I'm using it because I'm a
poweruser, though I am (:-).  I mainly need it so that I can have a list of
hosts that I do an "xon" to when I want to connect to them (my home
machine's on a T1 connection to the network).  Basically I like to exclude
the host I'm on from that as I have a menu for local xterms as well.  I
also like the ability to have a single configuration file for the machines
I log into via X.  M4 helps a lot with that so that I can just use FVWMDIR
for my ModulePath and similar notions.

 > Although I use ctwm, I'm no m4 or gm4 hacker and don't really have a
 > strong opinion one way or the other.  I certainly won't mind if my
 > ctwm automatically pulled in gm4, though -- I'll probably use it some
 > day anyway. :)

	:-)

 > What do other people think?  If nobody objects, we can split forces
 > and go wm-hacking.

	I wouldn't mind patching the ports to do this gm4 compatibility if
someone will commit the changes.

 > Oh, and one thing...I assume gm4 is upward-compatible to BSD m4, right?

	For everything *I've* done it has been.  I'm not totally sure on
this, maybe a comment from someone else who's an m4 hacker would be
appropriate before proceeding.

-matt

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