From owner-freebsd-hackers Sat Aug 3 17:40:16 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 028C637B400 for ; Sat, 3 Aug 2002 17:40:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (rwcrmhc51.attbi.com [204.127.198.38]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91D0F43E4A for ; Sat, 3 Aug 2002 17:40:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from julian@elischer.org) Received: from InterJet.elischer.org ([12.232.206.8]) by rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20020804004008.TMON19356.rwcrmhc51.attbi.com@InterJet.elischer.org>; Sun, 4 Aug 2002 00:40:08 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost.elischer.org [127.0.0.1]) by InterJet.elischer.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA56520; Sat, 3 Aug 2002 17:39:20 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 3 Aug 2002 17:39:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Julian Elischer To: Clifton Royston Cc: Bri , hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, Terry Lambert Subject: Re: dhcp problems with my ISP In-Reply-To: <20020803104230.B27467@lava.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG sometimes it's the cable modem that is cachingthe MAC address. whenever you change machines you need to power down and power up the cable modem. On Sat, 3 Aug 2002, Clifton Royston wrote: > On Sat, Aug 03, 2002 at 11:46:50AM -0700, freebsd-hackers-digest wrote: > > Date: Sat, 03 Aug 2002 03:17:17 -0700 > > From: Terry Lambert > > Subject: Re: dhcp problems with my ISP > > > > Bri wrote: > > > Hi I have a Cable and have a Cable Modem for my internet connection of which > > > you use dhcp to obtain an IP address great but this only seems to work > > > successfully on a Windows machine I've registered all the other mac > > > addresses of unix boxes and Apple macs I have and they seem to have alot of > > > difficulty obtaining IP addresses. Especially the UNIX machines which run > > > FreeBSD 4.5-RELEASE or 5.0-CURRENT on sparc64 at the moment the sparc64 box > > > which is a Sun Ultra 5 which is the worst for detecting an IP with dhclient. > > > > > > What I would really like to know is what does the windows dhcp do > > > differently than say dhclient. > > > > > > I would be very interested to know as I would like a UNIX machine that can > > > maintain and IP address. > > > > Use the same exact NIC. > > > > Often, once the cable company sees a MAC address, it filters all > > other MAC addresses from getting a lease from your wire. > > > > The intent of this is to prevent people grabbing more than one > > lease simultaneously, or running more than one machine at a time. > > > > Ask Julian Elisher. He had exactly this problem with a machine > > in San Francisco, 2 years ago. > > > > Note: If you ask, he will say "Yes, I had exactly this problem"; > > he won't tell you anything you can do about it, except "Use the > > same exact NIC", because that's really the only fix. > > > > - -- Terry > > This is true. > > However, one special and relevant case of "Use the same exact NIC" is > to set up one of the various UNIX boxes as your gateway doing NAT, and > have it act as a DHCP server for your LAN. Once that's done it can > issue DHCP leases to all your other systems, and then (for most > protocols) you can run as many machines as you like on your LAN using > that one cable company IP address. > > The freedom to do this kind of thing is one of the advantages of > using free UNIXes, and one might as well take advantage of it. > > -- Clifton > > -- > Clifton Royston -- LavaNet Systems Architect -- cliftonr@lava.net > "What do we need to make our world come alive? > What does it take to make us sing? > While we're waiting for the next one to arrive..." - Sisters of Mercy > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message