From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 30 09:48:58 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1818B106566B for ; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 09:48:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from utisoft@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iy0-f182.google.com (mail-iy0-f182.google.com [209.85.210.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D93B18FC1C for ; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 09:48:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iadx2 with SMTP id x2so1899159iad.13 for ; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 02:48:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=7be0vVGpKoO2ltNalNHZhj0ZHucsL6oR9B+RmDCUQpg=; b=wbJOv99b5TJ3T/D7SISe8CsKjgxSkgEbe59HJBtPzBPuQ9cDF8ibljj5NXPQGjgc89 J74MKtmLs8dC7bRzCx9NlK35PeibENnjfTItmS1beX5teS6VAXj9tYN8Zj7guOAoch1e GwSp5t+GYYBccg5SRlhSZp0fDeG8IiSgdIIUs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.45.204 with SMTP id g12mr12842029ibf.79.1314697737247; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 02:48:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.61.148 with HTTP; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 02:48:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.61.148 with HTTP; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 02:48:57 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20110830091358.GA83706@lpthe.jussieu.fr> References: <20110830091358.GA83706@lpthe.jussieu.fr> Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 10:48:57 +0100 Message-ID: From: Chris Rees To: Michel Talon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ports system quality X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 09:48:58 -0000 On 30 Aug 2011 10:15, "Michel Talon" wrote: > > Chad Perrin wrote: > > >Of course, your goal is apparently to > >convince me that yours are the "correct" priorities. > > Indeed i think having the correct priorities is essential when choosing > between different options, and i am sincerely convinced that my choices > are shared by a lot more people than yours. For example, having "less > bloat" in the system doesn't even appear in the radar of most people. > I value much more that hardware is supported, that installation and > upgrade are easy, troubleless. Like everyone else i am irritated by > some developments in the Ubuntu experience, for example the parallel > booting stuff, which doesn't work well (but that people would like to > imitate in FreeBSD), but all those problems remain minor. A few days ago > i went to a store to buy a new laptop, i went with two CDROMs, an Ubuntu > one and a FreeBSD one. Guess which of the two supported the network > controllers in the laptops i tried? > Did you deliberately pick the laptops with strange network controllers, or just use an old version of FreeBSD? Which version did you use? Chris