From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed May 27 18:36:32 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54AC52CB661 for ; Wed, 27 May 2020 18:36:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) Received: from sonic313-21.consmr.mail.ir2.yahoo.com (sonic313-21.consmr.mail.ir2.yahoo.com [77.238.179.188]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 49XKKq1X8zz3dYP for ; Wed, 27 May 2020 18:36:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) X-YMail-OSG: .yOUJskVM1mJLsodpQ3Ab_6tmsPgjvkUjVN_9z4Xw6D2G5GzAVxOYjIFqT8_2jK Ih6U.hR_ipIT80ueShsBSFxYAAjyhrCc7pBaklhg1Rdaqhke6owXukRUdxlnCAbzg0XFb_n0Di0X nbKc1OiIuj2j6zq2t9fp8e9ilI98NmycQcezGvZQ_3LipsbYG0Zkumn_QbjkYD0jZveXYuo7T8zJ TTRKXIlZANKbIiPExmmHaFycB4sPUO_1Evj__J0KOD3dsajzjiKzQA6fzet7Yug4zMjWS2MR7G1J IH9QmTbIy9D2XpE0qhQMVhP2kdR2QI_rvbV8tMzcqy_6LyZEYxiFBixhn5wQAs49Xy2l69vnlIww PV4a5v70rp3juhpjyn6sTKnsN9yajWq6fbDoxPamnRmw.Pmdy7dnM62ptGlr.8xf0s6EXJtirPsA 7cVdDXxfC_XX.KCDhB8PiWsL30hCn6iHwcwWraBnSB255Afh2O56.8sKfPJkmoArjZ4oGz7w8em8 82hFv07Gq2IRRSt_em70dNWeaLfK7wQuftVnx8.KQ1ERlhhG4jqgpsWNcGh.yM9_pGIAs.1mzc9z .PoUm_WQv95wd2xRSBk8zeDqwtEYtkra6B.B5e9Dx484QfvwMkL54jJyfKArfWAUyAzgqWnn30bl _sWXYibxXI8grg6nxCiCRU43V1TXW0G_fudVcNTbJht5Y0Y.O9R70DjdhzyJ_o6QBGIeERDaVfc0 trdrCnpspojKK0DwJp1m3HzSwyt5SUMfNHt7_auOjrIYAAmr.Kz93rDNlBHRnzFgZTUei4beE1TL yKws4ydGspcBjD2BO67ovbfYwyPTojbxGDqSw8JSH.jD7ZUBIMVzRjA2blV6iapQUJr_oISLD0.f lpTp9kXAH5..j6.zJr7mQqFdYJ9sYP4psuuNoNi4V9UV__C60My1Ad3NADKr99iIEMEJ47.AxiuQ I6UEL2uKJwEeOl5844KovTskr4_XVNz3W.iGyRalOmh0hXYelvI4MRWjE21a4wygynLGuuhs1FCk qRG6K78eFYS3QKH2txHy4HnJG99vNRD1Zb1GwPZwxU4l5nXvM02tLMJxcljv8.vBSWZWVx7DO2lK _Yxx96Tl07kYVU.CObLHU6HeFvVA8mASiRUtWA5a6Q.dyOtB8WvxQsTHbbWX5NKVxF8i_9wE8VhG Vn4.eTK2PkOmlcTGDYPRWDUmS5MyGKOgfg9IMps9GMRTNJBU9O4hQy03K_7r1A6OP3x.i8M8BxYY yA_gwfOlsrdEkOJhsMVa9DD.82Z4ECpNVkYJe2fpPXneLLmFS8XDsf6PDWllTh3HHOTaJS45J5Y7 YUgS9JSlXOyJ0eofpiTLChX_DKXPHK7ISiOBcxt2iKpJTFbq_yYVH104jLm8HHErUVMVS59CRb15 bymU218pV1jGfqvBe.g-- Received: from sonic.gate.mail.ne1.yahoo.com by sonic313.consmr.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with HTTP; Wed, 27 May 2020 18:36:28 +0000 Received: by smtp414.mail.ir2.yahoo.com (VZM Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 1c15ffd292f9cfc12c7479f4420c86c8; Wed, 27 May 2020 18:36:26 +0000 (UTC) Date: Wed, 27 May 2020 20:36:27 +0200 From: Ralf Mardorf To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD Cert Message-ID: <20200527203627.2c9faae5@archlinux> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Claws Mail (linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 49XKKq1X8zz3dYP X-Spamd-Bar: -- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.58 / 15.00]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[rocketmail.com:s=s2048]; XM_UA_NO_VERSION(0.01)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[rocketmail.com]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.01)[-1.015]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; MID_RHS_NOT_FQDN(0.50)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ptr:yahoo.com]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[rocketmail.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[rocketmail.com,reject]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[77.238.179.188:from]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.07)[-0.073]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.01)[-1.007]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[rocketmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:34010, ipnet:77.238.176.0/22, country:GB]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[77.238.179.188:from] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.33 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 May 2020 18:36:32 -0000 On Wed, 27 May 2020 17:03:29 +0000, Brandon helsley wrote: >Excuse me could you clarify I didn't catch that IMHO it's quite irrelevant given that you described yourself as "I don't know anything about computers but got freebsd as a project to learn as much as possible". If you official maintain software for an operating system you not only need to be _familiar_ with the operating system, you also need to chase after the source code, if upstream discontinues a project and somebody forks it or upstream migrated from one software hosting service to another and there are few additional things to do, that are very time consuming and that have nothing to do with becoming familiar with the operating system. You are interested in networking? Search https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ for the term "network". Learn how to read man(ual) pages, such as https://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?ls or https://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=tcsh&sektion=1&manpath=freebsd-release-ports man pages are the build in manual, but for a newbie the man pages are not easy to understand. Apropos shells: https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/linux-users/shells.html https://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/shells.html Learning by doing. Start a simple project. Kind of an advanced "Hello, World!" script that has something to do with your interests, maybe networking, instead of a program, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%22Hello,_World!%22_program .