From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 7 05:30:43 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96E1016A4CE for ; Wed, 7 Jan 2004 05:30:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from www.cyclades.de (mail.cyclades.de [62.225.173.194]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F58A43D53 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 2004 05:30:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mh@kernel32.de) Received: from pd9ff8813.dip.t-dialin.net ([217.255.136.19] helo=kernel32.de) by www.cyclades.de with asmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AeDlH-0004WC-00; Wed, 07 Jan 2004 14:30:15 +0100 Message-ID: <3FFC09D5.5080700@kernel32.de> Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2004 14:29:57 +0100 From: Marian Hettwer User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031115 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Joao Schim References: <3FFBD7B4.8010207@kernel32.de> <20040107125842.4d970782.joao@bowtie.nl> In-Reply-To: <20040107125842.4d970782.joao@bowtie.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-SpamCheck: cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Where is FreeBSD going? X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2004 13:30:43 -0000 Joao Schim wrote: > On Wed, 07 Jan 2004 10:56:04 +0100 > Marian Hettwer wrote: > > >>Keep up the good work, and improve talking to end users / non-programmers >>;) There are a bunch of "features" missing in FreeBSD which a Laptop >>definitly needs. > > > But i guess you need a discussion on development direction first. > As mentioned OBSD has a strong hand on security. FBSD used to be > talked about as technically superior to linux. I dont hear much > about that lately. Does FreeBSD choose to be "Laptop Friendly" or > will FreeBSD keep the "Power to Serve"-only attitude. Like in an > earlier discussion there was talk about FreeBSD does not choose to > be a Desktop OS. If advocacy can only be driven in the server-only > direction its not gonna spread that well. > Thats is ofcourse if you choose such growth.. Choices.. Choices.. > True. Anyhow, don't take the Laptop statement from me to serious. I am aware that FreeBSD is mainly a Server OS. But nevertheless, we have agp support, we have PCMCIA support (lacking CARDBUS in 4.x). And in my opinion, that's what we need. If I do administrate unix servers, I'd like to have a unix on my laptop. And actually, I like my FreeBSD :) I just would like to have full functionality of PCMCIA cards, like cardbus cards. Nevertheless, it's not the main point. The main question was: How to give FreeBSD more PR? best regards, Marian