From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 8 14:20:39 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6E0EFA9D for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2014 14:20:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.vangyzen.net (hotblack.vangyzen.net [IPv6:2607:fc50:1000:7400:216:3eff:fe72:314f]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E9F41306 for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2014 14:20:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from marvin.lab.vangyzen.net (c-24-125-214-90.hsd1.va.comcast.net [24.125.214.90]) by smtp.vangyzen.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 634C856444; Mon, 8 Sep 2014 09:20:38 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <540DBB35.6070003@vangyzen.net> Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2014 10:20:37 -0400 From: Eric van Gyzen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Warren Block Subject: Re: Improving /etc/motd and ANSI References: <20140908053250.GE82175@funkthat.com> <540DABD4.20908@vangyzen.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2014 14:20:39 -0000 On 09/08/2014 10:03, Warren Block wrote: > On Mon, 8 Sep 2014, Eric van Gyzen wrote: > >> On 09/08/2014 01:32, John-Mark Gurney wrote: >>> Also, we should reference a url for questions or problems, and not >>> include questions@ in the motd... The url can better include >>> information, and other places to find help, like for forums. >> >> Warren: Thank you for your effort to maintain this. >> >> As another possibility, how about putting just the following in >> /etc/motd: >> >> ==== >> >> Welcome to FreeBSD! For help getting started, please visit: >> >> http://freebsd.org/welcome >> >> Edit /etc/motd to change this login announcement. >> >> ==== >> >> That URL would contain the information currently in /etc/motd. We could >> easily maintain it to match the real world. Always up-to-date >> information, extreme flexibility for presentation, small motd, zero risk >> of terminal incompatibility, no confusing quotes. > > It was pointed out to me not that long ago that we have no web browser > in the base install. Having a URL-only introduction would make it > more difficult for some users to read that introduction. So, there are users who install FreeBSD as the _only_ operating system on the _only_ web-capable device in their vicinity, yet need the assistance provided by this introduction? Please help me understand this kind of user, as my imagination fails me. Eric