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Date:      Wed, 08 Nov 2000 11:00:22 -0800
From:      Mike Smith <msmith@freebsd.org>
To:        Andrew Gordon <arg@arg1.demon.co.uk>
Cc:        Mike Smith <msmith@freebsd.org>, spork@fasttrackmonkey.com, freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Server-class mobo's 
Message-ID:  <200011081900.eA8J0MF03063@mass.osd.bsdi.com>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 08 Nov 2000 16:41:26 GMT." <Pine.BSF.4.21.0011081636160.30937-100000@server.arg.sj.co.uk> 

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> > > Anyone have any ideas on who besides Intel uses this Phoenix BIOS that
> > > integrates a full serial console (from power on to OS boot)?
...
> > Note that most of these BIOS-serial designs are of the screen-scraper 
> > variety, so you still need a video card.  Ugh.
> 
> The version used in Intel's own 1U servers
> (http://www.intel.com/network/products/isp1100.htm) is indeed a
> screen-scraper, but you _don't_ need a video card installed: there's
> no on-board video, but it still works.  I guess that it maps in some of
> the main DRAM using the same technique as used for shadowing the BIOS ROM
> - but since it works without problems, I haven't investigated too deeply.

As far as I can tell, it doesn't.  If you check the documentation you'll 
find that the system BIOS is OK without a video card, but you're SOL if 
you want to use the BIOS on an add-in card.  (Since there's only 1.5 
slots, that makes things really awkward...)

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