From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 21 22:13:21 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 410081065674; Tue, 21 Aug 2012 22:13:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from slw@zxy.spb.ru) Received: from zxy.spb.ru (zxy.spb.ru [195.70.199.98]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E519A8FC0A; Tue, 21 Aug 2012 22:13:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from slw by zxy.spb.ru with local (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1T3wjf-0000si-R0; Wed, 22 Aug 2012 02:15:43 +0400 Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 02:15:43 +0400 From: Slawa Olhovchenkov To: Warner Losh Message-ID: <20120821221543.GV98910@zxy.spb.ru> References: <20120821095527.GA33206@hell.ukr.net> <67977762.20120821154035@serebryakov.spb.ru> <1243982625.20120821154548@serebryakov.spb.ru> <20120821124623.GC88729@zxy.spb.ru> <9481DE65-1249-4EE1-96E0-222ADD46B2E6@bsdimp.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <9481DE65-1249-4EE1-96E0-222ADD46B2E6@bsdimp.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: slw@zxy.spb.ru X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on zxy.spb.ru); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Cc: Garrett Cooper , Lev Serebryakov , current@freebsd.org, jhb@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: r239356: does it mean, that synchronous dhcp and dhcplcinet with disabled devd gone? X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2012 22:13:21 -0000 On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 01:56:11PM -0600, Warner Losh wrote: > > On Aug 21, 2012, at 6:46 AM, Slawa Olhovchenkov wrote: > > > On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 03:45:48PM +0400, Lev Serebryakov wrote: > > > >> Hello, Lev. > >> You wrote 21 августа 2012 г., 15:40:35: > >> > >> GC>> Try reverting r239356 -- if that works, then please let jhb@ know. > >> LS> I'm confused by this commit, because it seems (from comment alone), > >> LS> that dhclient will not work without devd anymore (with "synchronous > >> LS> dhcp" option in rc.conf). > >> LS> Am I right? > >> Also, I don't like idea of removing IP address from interface when > >> cable is unplugged. It was very disturbing behavior of Windows > >> machines for years. I've unplug cable to change switch port for only a > >> second and all connections are broken, even if one second later > >> dhcpclient receive SAME lease! I don't like this. FreeBSD was very > >> tolerant to unplugging cable for eons, and I (and not only me) like > >> it. If I understand this change properly, it is no more the case :( > > > > Not only cable. > > Turn on microwave, lost WiFi connection and lost all open ssh > > session (and other network connection). > > mosh helps. No. Not all remote host allow to install mosh. Cisco routers, for example, don't allow to install mosh.