From owner-freebsd-chat Wed Sep 4 15:41:48 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE3BC37B400 for ; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 15:41:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from directvinternet.com (dsl-65-185-140-165.telocity.com [65.185.140.165]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49EE043E42 for ; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 15:41:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nwestfal@directvinternet.com) Received: from Tolstoy.home.lan (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by directvinternet.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g84MfiGd038240; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 15:41:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nwestfal@directvinternet.com) Received: from localhost (nwestfal@localhost) by Tolstoy.home.lan (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) with ESMTP id g84MfigK038237; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 15:41:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: Tolstoy.home.lan: nwestfal owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 15:41:44 -0700 (PDT) From: "Neal E. Westfall" X-X-Sender: nwestfal@Tolstoy.home.lan To: Dave Hayes Cc: Terry Lambert , Subject: Re: Why did evolution fail? In-Reply-To: <200209041238.g84Ccm183246@hokkshideh2.jetcafe.org> Message-ID: <20020904153701.X13440-100000@Tolstoy.home.lan> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 4 Sep 2002, Dave Hayes wrote: > >> The problem with analogies is that sometimes they prove too much. Have > >> you ever met the Programmer? > > There's a programmer? 8-). > > Yeah there is. Er, but you have to be able to stop the dream and look > behind the curtain to see the Being. ;) I would argue that its not necessary to look behind the curtain if it were impossible to be dreaming in the first place without the the existence of such a Being. 8-) > >> Yes, but this is all beside the point. It is purely descriptive. > >> To what ends *should* society be seeking? > > > > IMO? The advancement of human knowledge. > > Noble, but how do you know this isn't misguided? Sometimes it is, but then you would have to have some objective standards. 8-) > > Wise men learn more from fools than fools from the wise. > Nice! Neal To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message