From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 1 07:35:42 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AA64106564A for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 07:35:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from imedmobility.com (host-50.216-16-29.iw.net [216.16.29.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 251BC8FC13 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 07:35:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from midco.net (host-47-73-107-208.midco.net [208.107.73.47]) by imedmobility.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8634D1173C4D for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 01:35:41 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <49AA3AAE.1040400@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 01:35:10 -0600 From: Adam Vande More User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (X11/20081225) MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <630286c70902270134u18505882xbabf547190ae8747@mail.gmail.com> <20090228191416.2421e88a@scorpio> <49AA19F4.2060408@bah.homeip.net> <200902282237.26322.chuckop@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <200902282237.26322.chuckop@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: Ports on Macbook X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 07:35:42 -0000 Charles Oppermann wrote: >>> That depends on where you are domiciled. Under certain scenarios, simply >>> open the box, or installing the software constitutes acceptance of the >>> EULA. >>> >> Yes I'm aware of that, but that kind of agreement isn't valid in Sweden. >> > > That would be tantamount to allowing software piracy in Sweden. The Mac OS X > license agreements are contained in a PDF file here: > > http://images.apple.com/legal/sla/docs/macosx105.pdf > > There is a Swedish language agreement for sales in Sweden. Using on-line > translation tools, it appears to be similar to what's already been stated; > use of the software consistutes acceptance of the agreement. If you do not > agree, you are requested to return the software. Presumably, the retail > materials contain this agreement, and I'm sure there is digital copy that is > presented and must be agreed to before use. > > I'm sure that Apple has very good lawyers who drafted the license agreements > and are aware of Swedish law. While what you are doing may or may not be in > violation of any licenses, your position that "clicking yes or no is not a > handshake or oral agreement acording to Swedish law" seems dubious and > ill-advised. > > Consider what you're suggesting: If EULA's and license agreements simply > weren't valid in Sweden, then what would prevent massive piracy from > occuring? I would assume that if license agreements in Sweden weren't > enforcable, someone would be setting up their own software copying business. > > ...and if that happened, I would expect software companies to change their > license agreements in order to prevent it. > > >> If you are under 18 you can't make any >> legally binding agreements without your legal guardians permission. >> This list is great for many reasons. This thread is not one of them. Trying to convince people to use Hackintosh is about as ridiculous as using on-line translation tool to deliver a rendition on Swedish law. Surely there is a better forum to debate this? Like off-list...