From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 5 17:15:25 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C20E51065674 for ; Thu, 5 Jul 2012 17:15:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mwm@mired.org) Received: from mail-qa0-f47.google.com (mail-qa0-f47.google.com [209.85.216.47]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F91D8FC20 for ; Thu, 5 Jul 2012 17:15:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qabg1 with SMTP id g1so4132895qab.13 for ; Thu, 05 Jul 2012 10:15:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references :organization:x-mailer:face:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:x-gm-message-state; bh=LutrbNfYO+sMBzlXlAime0YFiDts/BrKrJv4Mad7UMo=; b=hrcljLOgRVgwnADaQE7P/fCg5lQRfZh+9PQ0fgCMk9ovGvA5HKPzXsRSX1WQSK4AQp VcgNBQqyooERw7LwrZJm0SdTzh4x4ccvvsNDgGKG7WvAssUVKOfFrN1M9mIts+bPP+/9 0N9+cGszoRnaoUoiuo1uZLOrx4cUhFwiAvFjtuB2Hm8Bf4WknTu2T+tnh4gCP5ZcZzi7 bDhQzgfEqPtCh/OiObBSLiurO/MO3RttujgTveMqp51oDS1yLNwmFtmuzVbhWW3czFvm 6LX4Yqzq5weG9onOskPsHOb2ddcYYPT39OZrKWHUpNQEDE8QYAePaogkAdOBlTutLcNF YMPQ== Received: by 10.224.181.70 with SMTP id bx6mr34580804qab.54.1341508524540; Thu, 05 Jul 2012 10:15:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bhuda.mired.org (74-140-201-117.dhcp.insightbb.com. [74.140.201.117]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id bh13sm46747951qab.21.2012.07.05.10.15.23 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 05 Jul 2012 10:15:24 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2012 13:15:18 -0400 From: Mike Meyer To: Jason Hellenthal Message-ID: <20120705131518.06898223@bhuda.mired.org> In-Reply-To: <20120705170944.GA43725@DataIX.net> References: <4FF4BEED.10103@FreeBSD.org> <62039A45-92E4-4588-988D-6DF39D7B01E5@bsdimp.com> <201207050922.25815.j.mckeown@ru.ac.za> <20120705082857.GB37083@server.rulingia.com> <4FF55864.8040807@FreeBSD.org> <4FF5BE93.4010509@my.gd> <20120705170944.GA43725@DataIX.net> Organization: Meyer Consulting X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.3) Face: 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 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQm6hhIoyKFG8gEHtlk2T5bCDDBOc1O587hJtRThJ1vZ/ZatKbT4VbOf1ekLiLpu7KKczhN1 Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Pull in upstream before 9.1 code freeze? X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2012 17:15:25 -0000 On Thu, 5 Jul 2012 13:09:44 -0400 Jason Hellenthal wrote: > On Thu, Jul 05, 2012 at 06:19:31PM +0200, Damien Fleuriot wrote: > > As long as it can be toggled off system-wide, persistently (sysctl?), I > > can't see the harm in bringing that in. > Haha sysctl... thats going quite a bit too far into the system for this. Yup. A sysctl (or rc.conf variable) intended specifically to control the behavior of shells is an even worse idea than turning this nanny behavior on for everyone. http://www.mired.org/ Independent Software developer/SCM consultant, email for more information. O< ascii ribbon campaign - stop html mail - www.asciiribbon.org