From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 4 17:58:20 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BFB0B1F7 for ; Wed, 4 Jun 2014 17:58:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from nm34-vm7.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm34-vm7.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [72.30.239.79]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 651A62E22 for ; Wed, 4 Jun 2014 17:58:20 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s2048; t=1401904582; bh=j9nnDSNjyAmRZlGtJsyUU0e6TISks8JY4jWkUvIGWaA=; h=Received:Received:Received:X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-Rocket-Received:Message-ID:Date:From:Organization:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=j5YB1FQpdF8ISHEZB4sEAPZx4XKYCGgNwKhUyeuzJfKCW8Zi1NuLrFOXF7PhoT2YsLPEQ2abKp7XIs09yeZxwg6E1LjOo4edxYdswAHAvHsVr5SuEDmmI1/MBG4F87RlndmVMu2tpAZQS8k8vI/OGI1tIHN/EMZ5KREd2o6NEoGb0W7qc+69Cgrl5wHItct1Ye9l7GUj/hOOWM7nCJfIoW7OEu3hce7P3PFJsklQTrH7QJsBisAj97sckhLdFU+kZzThHQ25nwtNIq7s7d4xsOUYTaFOSr8sKPri21vmvTRz82EMpc29xBT9t6sRUPpJ2RxYWxUdfJH7JJhrUMIGEg== DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s2048; d=yahoo.com; b=epR9nxSgEs8VCpzUWTXKpIyK6zF/O3PdmKrCMdH7apwSfWMrKfh9qA5CycKcBGViiEK6fX4ql2xEds10jmw8AU8DnlUIHuuj8b89z+bZxGWVEhq2S7b1vcuSo8MK5qPkKgGwE9bOQ5qnWYmZ7NtADOcB9c8JHE1ws0TYjgwcc57v5yt6tovlTmwv2MbcJGfPODezGUAhGjWDLeke+dSdapEdKLUCDNWchNZrLlAe3dmlGGOwWKTDXA3FQVUysE7YZHciDrgGGdhZCoVbCMG0Zf7UKimyAeu5ASdnxqh1BoJ7xfOb1V1rMD/aE7w8OadcFcx5IIaa+IPU6l9y323zGw==; Received: from [98.139.212.150] by nm34.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Jun 2014 17:56:22 -0000 Received: from [98.139.213.13] by tm7.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Jun 2014 17:56:22 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp113.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Jun 2014 17:56:22 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 12502.4776.bm@smtp113.mail.bf1.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: MI.vrKIVM1k7TB5KtWrS9kWDHW_070Mwz7mRAcoCuc8Zo4F BtJfos2TKJeFm3qjreRI0WgliTIGygetRzGTN_tGWf3xYl8l6mP2E2MWmfVe jYLZGQuesHQBUDrpLao3Ki6baUiEIaxavvICRqoitjF7GLXqQ6s9WzCq.wrX IpgBc_aT7rK60EC1Ra90hvk71AB1zolNjxpMbRgaPRlVnWc6qT4yL6qLzddy 5cWih.vsUoCrCitHv53qTY9ZtbyuFsIBdsO0f8p2gg.nB7fJS5EO7QWjE7iM pXxPPbnoywMpYjXfN8MF7x9b_gM8_tYZeUVZk01HSvrqyoT54J.UNJzC_ySB ghAAjp7Vz2YflttICJPFLTa9Q0HfhRAYNlWxD3ncbPQUVK91KjyITzwQ862W mmyEg5RSR4rK85u83gC5GzQtIZ_bdmwbhL.doUvrgEnzyrBim8M23ggdTm70 jiGPJ3EOUAO0TtzutuDGzX.FTAy_DiZJiNwu9r_5Y9Ay_bVh5yD6Qs_X7Jvl 7S7reZS3haPB4WWb6fptGbnlwOjdZzuk- X-Yahoo-SMTP: xcjD0guswBAZaPPIbxpWwLcp9Unf X-Rocket-Received: from [192.168.0.102] (pfg@190.157.126.109 with plain [63.250.193.228]) by smtp113.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 04 Jun 2014 10:56:21 -0700 PDT Message-ID: <538F5DC7.4060404@FreeBSD.org> Date: Wed, 04 Jun 2014 12:56:23 -0500 From: Pedro Giffuni Organization: FreeBSD User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, John Kozubik Subject: Re: There is currently no usable release of FreeBSD. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Jun 2014 17:58:20 -0000 Ahem ... > You can't put an x.0 release into production (a bigotry that is *well > deserved* in light of 5.0 and 9.0) ... and 9.2 and 8.4 are legacy ... > and we all know that 9.3 is as far as the 9 branch is going to go, so > that's a dead end for any serious deployment. It's a myth, the FreeBSD cluster is running 11-current for everything so, I think it's fairly usable. 10.0 is production quality, however you have to check for the security advisories so I use 10-stable and I find it very easy to maintain with pkg(ng). Pedro.