From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 16 05:06:41 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F403616A4CE for ; Tue, 16 Nov 2004 05:06:40 +0000 (GMT) Received: from vscan02.westnet.com.au (vscan02.westnet.com.au [203.10.1.132]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70EDA43D45 for ; Tue, 16 Nov 2004 05:06:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from christopher@nu.org) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AE0AE6B8; Tue, 16 Nov 2004 13:06:38 +0800 (WST) Received: from vscan02.westnet.com.au ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (vscan02.westnet.com.au [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 17175-08; Tue, 16 Nov 2004 13:06:34 +0800 (WST) Received: from anembo.nu.org (dsl-202-173-130-73.nsw.westnet.com.au [202.173.130.73]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by vscan02.westnet.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A7A3E6B5; Tue, 16 Nov 2004 13:06:34 +0800 (WST) Received: from anembo.nu.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by anembo.nu.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id iAG56UHP087368; Tue, 16 Nov 2004 16:06:30 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from christopher@nu.org) Received: (from cjsv@localhost) by anembo.nu.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id iAG56OaY087363; Tue, 16 Nov 2004 16:06:25 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from christopher@nu.org) X-Authentication-Warning: anembo.nu.org: cjsv set sender to christopher@nu.org using -f Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 16:06:24 +1100 From: Christopher Vance To: Avleen Vig , Kevin Lyons , freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20041116050624.GG88973@anembo.nu.org> References: <41940880.7070409@corserv.com> <20041112023023.GG19417@silverwraith.com> <20041112031122.GA87071@falcon.midgard.homeip.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20041112031122.GA87071@falcon.midgard.homeip.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Subject: Re: tcsh fix X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 05:06:41 -0000 On Fri, Nov 12, 2004 at 04:11:22AM +0100, Erik Trulsson wrote: >Personally I am of the opinion that csh (all versions) should be >removed completely from the base system and relegated entirely to the >ports system. Other than historical reasons there is not much point in >having it in the base system. I agree. Please. OpenBSD's standard sh is a well-maintained pdksh, and is really nice - significantly nicer than the pdksh version in ports, and much nicer than the bash that got foisted on me at my last job or the csh I got stuck with many jobs before that. -- Christopher Vance