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Date:      Sat, 17 Mar 2001 10:34:18 -0700
From:      Brett Glass <brett@lariat.org>
To:        Mike Meyer <mwm@mired.org>
Cc:        chat@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Stallman stalls again
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At 11:37 PM 3/16/2001, Mike Meyer wrote:
  
>The only part of your "critical thinking" I'm not imitating is that
>I'm giving you a chance to prove your point, instead of blindly
>repeating the facts as I think they are.

No, you're blindly repeating quite a few "facts as [you] think
they are" -- about publishers especially. It just so happens
that I'm a publisher of music myself (as well as a composer), 
and all of the sweeping generalizations you make about the 
"evil" publishers do not apply.

>I'm perfectly willing to believe that Stallman advocates theft. I've
>seen him in action socially, and have firsthand accounts of his dating
>skills from my kids godmother. 

Ask anyone female who has encountered him in recent memory about
the way he leers at anyone of that gender (though this particular
behavior is unrelated to the issue at hand). My wife thought that
it was not only crass but pathetic.

>To anyone who knows him, an expedient
>lie is clearly possible for him. On the other hand, I don't think he
>would extend that to libel, which you apparently have no problem
>doing.

Everything I have said about Stallman is true. Therefore, it's not
libel.

>As a final note, my stance on copyrights dates from the publishers
>attacks on our rights before the publication of the GNU manifesto and
>the founding of the FSF.

In that case, you should learn more about the logistics of publishing.
Not all of us are so bad.

> You are wasting your time trying to influence
>me demonizing Stallman.

And now we come full circle. My goal is not to "demonize" Stallman,
nor is this what I am doing. I am, rather, providing truthful
information that puts his words and actions in context, so that
others will understand his true aims.

--Brett Glass





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