From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Apr 1 22:02:58 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41FBFAEB942 for ; Fri, 1 Apr 2016 22:02:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "wonkity.com", Issuer "wonkity.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 13A961502 for ; Fri, 1 Apr 2016 22:02:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id u31M2qwL068376 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 1 Apr 2016 16:02:52 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id u31M2qqe068373; Fri, 1 Apr 2016 16:02:52 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2016 16:02:52 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Polytropon cc: Sergei G , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Recommended laptop for FreeBSD 10.2 Xfce workstation? In-Reply-To: <20160401222803.a9d02ebb.freebsd@edvax.de> Message-ID: References: <56FB5230.2070703@holgerdanske.com> <20160401222803.a9d02ebb.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (BSF 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Fri, 01 Apr 2016 16:02:52 -0600 (MDT) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Apr 2016 22:02:58 -0000 On Fri, 1 Apr 2016, Polytropon wrote: > On Fri, 1 Apr 2016 13:21:08 -0700, Sergei G wrote: >> Older Dell laptop has been ok for me D630 (I don't remember if wireless >> worked or not). > > I have successfully instantiated a Dell Latitude D630 with > FreeBSD 10. Its wireless adapter is supported. All other > components (such as regular network, audio and docking station) > also work as expected. However, that is a quite "outdated" > machine, but this definitely does _not_ imply that it's > useless. I made it run Gnome which (in retrospect) was a > stupid decision. ;-) > > Other older devices, such as IBM Thinkpad (now Lenovo) models > T60p, R61i and R500 also work good with FreeBSD. I've used Dell Core2 systems like the E1505 successfully. Don't recall which wireless card came with it, but I generally replace them with an Atheros card. No problems otherwise. Such a system is usable if you are willing to be somewhat patient for building world or very large ports. An SSD is not a luxury, it makes any system much more usable. My current notebook is an Acer Aspire 5740 with a first-generation i5. It has 10-stable, and I have not bothered to experiment with suspend. This will hopefully soon be replaced by a Dell Haswell machine. The 15W CPU should make for a cooler-running system.