From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 23 17:53:58 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DB2C1065675; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 17:53:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sam@freebsd.org) Received: from ebb.errno.com (ebb.errno.com [69.12.149.25]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EDB58FC25; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 17:53:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sam@freebsd.org) Received: from trouble.errno.com (trouble.errno.com [10.0.0.248]) (authenticated bits=0) by ebb.errno.com (8.13.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id mBNHrtOG066195 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 23 Dec 2008 09:53:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sam@freebsd.org) Message-ID: <495125B2.1070806@freebsd.org> Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 09:53:54 -0800 From: Sam Leffler Organization: FreeBSD Project User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20071125) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alfred Perlstein References: <20081222214010.GA18389@elvis.mu.org> <86abanuhh5.fsf@ds4.des.no> <20081223144914.GO18389@elvis.mu.org> <863agevs8y.fsf@ds4.des.no> <20081223151942.GP18389@elvis.mu.org> In-Reply-To: <20081223151942.GP18389@elvis.mu.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-DCC-sonic.net-Metrics: ebb.errno.com; whitelist Cc: Dag-Erling Sm??rgrav , current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HEADSUP usb2 (usb4bsd) to become default in 2 weeks. X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 17:53:58 -0000 Alfred Perlstein wrote: > * Dag-Erling Sm??rgrav [081223 07:14] wrote: > >> Alfred Perlstein writes: >> >>> Dag-Erling Sm??rgrav writes: >>> >>>> Don't you think this should be discussed first? >>>> >>> If someone has a strong objection with some concrete issues >>> I'm all ears. >>> >> You know very well that there are, and you also know very well that this >> is too big a change to go in without discussion. >> > > Perhaps you can list them for me, all I've seen so far is: > > 1) Sam has code he doesn't want to port (Hans has stepped up to do so.) > 2) Another 1 or 2 developers have code that needs porting and we're > in discussions with them about it. > 3) I think you were mad about whitespace or something, but like this > case, you were not up for bringing specifics to the table. > > If you have something to add then please be more specific with your > requirements. > > > As usual you've misconstrued my comment and ignored all the substantive issues that have been brought up since the code was added to the tree. The fact that you need people to list issues for you shows how out of touch you are. It is pointless to argue issues with you yet again so I will simply say that I have always been in favor of moving the usb code base forward. In fact I strongly suggested you commit the new code _in place_ of the existing code. As to my work I have said I'm not interested in working w/ the new usb code so someone else will need to bring in the missing functionality (same goes for all wireless drivers). I believe that person has stepped up so this is not an issue for me. Sam