From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 4 21:04:10 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D7A953BC for ; Wed, 4 Jun 2014 21:04:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx1.scaleengine.net (beauharnois2.bhs1.scaleengine.net [142.4.218.15]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE62F24A7 for ; Wed, 4 Jun 2014 21:04:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.1.1.1] (S01060001abad1dea.hm.shawcable.net [50.70.146.73]) (Authenticated sender: allanjude.freebsd@scaleengine.com) by mx1.scaleengine.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 0C2B57DDB3 for ; Wed, 4 Jun 2014 21:04:08 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <538F89CA.7070600@freebsd.org> Date: Wed, 04 Jun 2014 17:04:10 -0400 From: Allan Jude User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: There is currently no usable release of FreeBSD. References: <332D72DF-2225-40E2-B246-0786181AAB51@tony.li> <538F5FB5.9060008@FreeBSD.org> <20140604231432.a5581f5a50f8d7e1611f9736@systemdatarecorder.org> <538F7F10.7070605@freebsd.org> <20140604233617.a97ffe3b3e04c6d8bbb2b4db@systemdatarecorder.org> In-Reply-To: <20140604233617.a97ffe3b3e04c6d8bbb2b4db@systemdatarecorder.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.6 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="IUDHfgsIXPUTS82T0EWX25VBKMAUdjnJv" X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Jun 2014 21:04:10 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --IUDHfgsIXPUTS82T0EWX25VBKMAUdjnJv Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2014-06-04 16:36, Stefan Parvu wrote: >=20 >> Technically, the branches are stable >=20 > fair enough, but remember some people don't know what are FreeBSD branc= hes > nor the internal notation or the calling convention. They want to know = what can=20 > they download to use on their production environments. As well, probabl= e makes > sense to have somewhere defined why there are 3 stable, production rele= ases > and the life support scheme for each. >=20 > Sort of: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solaris_%28operating_system%29 > (Solaris Release Timeline) >=20 >> so it'd be: >> Releases: 10.0, 9.2, 8.4 >> Testing: 11-snapshot, 9.3 >=20 > Sounds good. I think legacy should be dropped in favour of something si= mpler and easy > to digest from sys admins to data center managers. >=20 Yes, the term 'Legacy' has negative connotations that do not fit 9.2 and = 8.4 After discussing it with gjb via Phabricator, the proposed change will re= ad: LATEST RELEASES: >> Production: 10.0, 9.2, 8.4 >> Upcoming: 9.3 This will make it more clear that it is entirely acceptable to install 9.2 on a new system. --=20 Allan Jude --IUDHfgsIXPUTS82T0EWX25VBKMAUdjnJv Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.16 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJTj4nNAAoJEJrBFpNRJZKfwikQAIuwRDwdnTkXdzxoR9ufiUX0 ZTUoSZB/a/MysPvtqsThXjUfZDNQxgAfYPsfhzDsUhwV9ADNgqGqTkeju17Sv5DG Ww4UL7ZXsLM9+kmS+1leP5FFLO1zLbt/26VTKeyhTvNLJL8Tz8REGwEgMWVR+zLu wdLqdG/0AeulnuDqxtckRF2bH7WimuknnJI+of+xmYQP7E/LHnBHlRzxjJmHZHQv Hq3JIu0LIA7TQMalRfiImJGhLBbY5/qDR35zlF6L72pKE+f5FlU9qQ653TVxve1c 9IfKyd9kbnkx6SFCCXJqHM1koCK8TB4Ypxjv31TTlhYvDrzhCwpq98Bvr8kz5MAn 175QqsSMohO5uJYP9UkrtavMLSp0vuvL0ab43iPBMwINQJhiNjLTNe707wFOK9ed Y7LW4vNKpA8d7VGBO7B9qwijcPbgfsGf4GGQMGz7+DbLxO6rtAyGVQoshCsB/uy8 Xw1lllOmnntayt4vHapfIGVKuWh1dCFo+6sZKl3fxdyytLNVRDoP9YT6LCrBPGgZ u2j570+9Q39S3xHX/rI3DLDqYXT862i1VsfYa0EZfRqr6NdC4Ehn92wYh3lfDu/k hsa9MJorQtAxqgHk+MYGtitYwm+kw7RVdIoo1L6hLajqsoUb2Wfr+YHgTQTRyrbB iE4KxPaqklJ9AxRG7bVU =NS45 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --IUDHfgsIXPUTS82T0EWX25VBKMAUdjnJv--