From owner-freebsd-ports Mon Feb 10 14:30:57 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA29453 for ports-outgoing; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 14:30:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from po1.glue.umd.edu (root@po1.glue.umd.edu [129.2.128.44]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA29444 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 14:30:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from protocol.eng.umd.edu (protocol.eng.umd.edu [129.2.98.180]) by po1.glue.umd.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA20018; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 17:30:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (chuckr@localhost) by protocol.eng.umd.edu (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA22079; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 17:30:39 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: protocol.eng.umd.edu: chuckr owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 17:30:38 -0500 (EST) From: Chuck Robey X-Sender: chuckr@protocol.eng.umd.edu To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" cc: Peter Mutsaers , freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: tcl 7.6 & tk 4.2 In-Reply-To: <25760.855607481@time.cdrom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-ports@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 10 Feb 1997, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > Maybe it is better to wait for version 8 (or currently use their beta > > versions) and forget about Tcl 7.6/Tk 4.2. > > I lean leavily towards the former option. After listening to Brent > Welch speak at the Tcl/Tk BOF this past USENIX about some of the > things they have in 8.0 or are upcoming for the full release, I'd say > that 8.0 is more than just another revision bump - it's a jumping-off > point for a whole new style of interaction with Tcl & Tk, and it's > going to be sort of a "get on the bandwagon or be forever left behind" > kind of proposition for many of the existing applications. Once Tcl > 8.0 is mature, I think it'd also be a really good replacement for the > Tcl 7.5 which is already in our source tree. It has better support > for "objects" and the kinds of abstract data types which come up > frequently in Real Life(tm). I completely agree. I understand 8.0 is at least a month or two away, and could easily be longer, but when it hits, I think it's a strong candidte for upgrading our src tcl and our ports tk. I really think the pain of making multiple tcl/tk versions coexist is really not worth the cost. Since the 8.0 upgrade is so major, I would be for just cutting the ties and forcing an upgrade. That it means that we would have to listen to complaints I understand. but the complaints involved with the problems of running multiple version would (I feel) be just as bad. > > Jordan > ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@eng.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 9120 Edmonston Ct #302 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run Journey2 and picnic, both FreeBSD (301) 220-2114 | version 3.0 current -- and great FUN! ----------------------------+-----------------------------------------------