From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Sun Dec 23 08:42:37 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CC171351722 for ; Sun, 23 Dec 2018 08:42:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from des@des.no) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 016DA8FA63 for ; Sun, 23 Dec 2018 08:42:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from des@des.no) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id B90341351721; Sun, 23 Dec 2018 08:42:36 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: current@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7861135171F for ; Sun, 23 Dec 2018 08:42:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from des@des.no) Received: from smtp.des.no (smtp.des.no [194.63.250.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3FCB8FA61; Sun, 23 Dec 2018 08:42:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from des@des.no) Received: from next.des.no (smtp.des.no [194.63.250.102]) by smtp.des.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 512C31F851; Sun, 23 Dec 2018 08:42:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: by next.des.no (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 0F16A82CE; Sun, 23 Dec 2018 09:42:34 +0100 (CET) From: =?utf-8?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=C3=B8rgrav?= To: Cy Schubert Cc: Yuri Pankov , Mark Peek , Enji Cooper , Warner Losh , freebsd-current Subject: Re: workaround for VMware WS NAT bug triggered by OpenSSH 7.8p1 changes In-Reply-To: <201812230803.wBN83TL0045135@slippy.cwsent.com> (Cy Schubert's message of "Sun, 23 Dec 2018 00:03:29 -0800") References: <201812230803.wBN83TL0045135@slippy.cwsent.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.1 (berkeley-unix) Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2018 09:42:33 +0100 Message-ID: <86pntszlae.fsf@next.des.no> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: A3FCB8FA61 X-Spamd-Bar: ----- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of des@des.no designates 194.63.250.102 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=des@des.no X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-5.23 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[des.no]; RCPT_COUNT_FIVE(0.00)[6]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: smtp.des.no]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.33)[0.334,0]; IP_SCORE(-3.35)[ip: (-8.86), ipnet: 194.63.250.0/24(-4.43), asn: 12996(-3.45), country: NO(-0.01)]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; ASN(0.00)[asn:12996, ipnet:194.63.250.0/24, country:NO] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2018 08:42:37 -0000 Cy Schubert writes: > Hmmm. I guess Red Hat Enterprise Linux must be a toy OS then. I don't speak for them, but I assure you that both their code and ours are full of workarounds for bugs in third-party software and hardware, and it is ridiculous to claim otherwise. > No. We do like Red Hat does. Advise the customer to use a workaround=20 > until the other vendor fixes their code. With respect, that's not your decision. It's mine. DES --=20 Dag-Erling Sm=C3=B8rgrav - des@des.no