From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 2 20:20:45 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DA16A8EF for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2015 20:20:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from sasl.smtp.pobox.com (pb-sasl1.int.icgroup.com [208.72.237.25]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A406BD1D for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2015 20:20:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from sasl.smtp.pobox.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by pb-sasl1.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A741E3410B; Mon, 2 Feb 2015 15:20:43 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=pobox.com; h=subject :mime-version:content-type:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; s=sasl; bh= bgnDGA2+1007ikd24Jkrn0EtfZE=; b=GyJ2pzlRVm+NskhhY5yeWAIMHuGGGQyo 2JqmFvWuPRQUxClNUuxT2vZNUzRkTEuyqKRNk9rpIohNLYEeYGMFKweqxvG1mZ/p yIngxvrNZs7xFWjhw2NKZb/wOdILZAxaj/S+UFOKxZCFQUu1qgVnj3VOiYsSeF+B f2q2G7MAjTs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=pobox.com; h=subject :mime-version:content-type:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; q=dns; s= sasl; b=a3YELyYClY3BWJcVZBDqlLIxoWc+Msft2vUkI39CIIr2hSbb74xYl0fl DLqIRTOII3GXy4vGPEDBY/L5ldrugDgc6vOvFjjPoENBDVu2JQy9a01T7qT3XqG3 XlSJ3VwqwnuySUwYlgGAiORxYvveW8gYYRMpQVI5zotbXW8o/l4= Received: from pb-sasl1.int.icgroup.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by pb-sasl1.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E3F83410A; Mon, 2 Feb 2015 15:20:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from almini.rcthomas.org (unknown [208.53.120.31]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pb-sasl1.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 74E4534108; Mon, 2 Feb 2015 15:20:41 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Successfully installed FreeBSD 10.1 on Apple PowerMac G5 -- BUT -- system freezes after a few minutes of running. Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.6\)) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 From: Rick Thomas In-Reply-To: <25A7C3E9-BEDB-4DA3-B9F7-08F2C299C119@dsl-only.net> Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2015 12:20:38 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <7CD2FBA0-45B9-441D-9333-47A0F005CF98@pobox.com> References: <25A7C3E9-BEDB-4DA3-B9F7-08F2C299C119@dsl-only.net> To: Mark Millard X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6) X-Pobox-Relay-ID: F5DC33B4-AB18-11E4-9B79-B05EFC961345-02150157!pb-sasl1.pobox.com Cc: FreeBSD PowerPC ML X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2015 20:20:45 -0000 Thanks! I hope to be able to get the log files by removing the disk and putting = it in a different machine, or by booting the install disk as a =93live=94 = system and extracting the log files from the disk to a USB stick. I=92ll = report when I have something. As for tracking down the specific versions of things, I installed from = unmodified FreeBSD-10.1-STABLE-powerpc-powerpc64-20150121-r277483-disc1.iso It was a plain vanilla install =97 nothing special. It=92s worth noting that the machine stayed up happily all through the = install process. I did check the MD5sum so I=92m pretty sure I got a good copy. And a big =93Thank You!=94 to Bill Sorenson for confirming that this is = the latest/best=85 I will follow up on your point about removing parts until I get a = working config. I=92ll start by stripping out all RAM above 2GB and any = unneeded PCI cards. Enjoy! Rick On Feb 2, 2015, at 12:05 AM, Mark Millard wrote: > If every boot gives some time before things freeze up you might be = able to extract and report the outputs of commands like: >=20 > $ freebsd-version -ku; uname -a > 10.1-RELEASE-p5 > 10.1-RELEASE-p5 > FreeBSD FBSDG5M1 10.1-RELEASE-p5 FreeBSD 10.1-RELEASE-p5 #0 r277808M: = Fri Jan 30 00:58:33 PST 2015 = root@FBSDG5M1:/usr/obj/usr/home/markmi/src_10_1_releng/sys/GENERIC64vtsc = powerpc >=20 > (There is more than one 'powerpc64 FreeBSD 10.1 "disk1" CD' that can = be burned, such 10.1-RELEASE vs., say, a recent 10.1-STABLE. But it = turns out that until very recently powerpc64 CD burns did not work for = booting PowerMac G5s so more than normal is known about which versions = could have be installed from a CD.) >=20 > Despite the mention of there being no console messages I list some = basics below about dumping messages out anyway... >=20 > $ tail /var/log/messages > Feb 1 21:37:40 FBSDG5M1 kernel: uhid1: on usbus1 > Feb 1 21:37:40 FBSDG5M1 kernel: hid_get_item: Number of items = truncated to 255 > Feb 1 21:37:40 FBSDG5M1 last message repeated 2 times > Feb 1 21:37:41 FBSDG5M1 ntpd[991]: ntpd 4.2.4p5-a (1) > Feb 1 21:37:43 FBSDG5M1 dbus[924]: [system] Activating service = name=3D'org.freedesktop.ConsoleKit' (using servicehelper) > Feb 1 21:37:43 FBSDG5M1 dbus[924]: [system] Activating service = name=3D'org.freedesktop.PolicyKit1' (using servicehelper) > Feb 1 21:37:43 FBSDG5M1 dbus[924]: [system] Successfully activated = service 'org.freedesktop.PolicyKit1' > Feb 1 21:37:43 FBSDG5M1 dbus[924]: [system] Successfully activated = service 'org.freedesktop.ConsoleKit' > Feb 1 21:37:52 FBSDG5M1 ntpd[992]: time reset +1.748777 s > Feb 1 21:38:01 FBSDG5M1 login: ROOT LOGIN (root) ON ttyv0 >=20 > $ dmesg -a | tail > Configuring vt: blanktime. > Performing sanity check on sshd configuration. > Starting sshd. > Starting sendmail_submit. > Starting sendmail_msp_queue. > Starting cron. > Starting background file system checks in 60 seconds. >=20 > Sun Feb 1 21:37:42 PST 2015 > Feb 1 21:38:01 FBSDG5M1 login: ROOT LOGIN (root) ON ttyv0 >=20 > tail by itself may not give enough context. Full copies would be nice = but I do not know about fitting the time before the hangup. >=20 > The intent is to have a more complete specification of which 10.1 = variant and to see if problems are being logged before the complete = hangup. >=20 > Others may well have better suggestions than mine for getting = evidence. >=20 >=20 > You should probably indicate if you are using just the console vs., = say, X11. (Although it is probably just the console if it never stayed = up long enough to establish more context.) Some folks may want to know = the video card involved or other configuration information, even for = simple console usage. >=20 >=20 >=20 > Historically for a base system configuration (video card & monitor, = SSD appropriate to the SATA vintage, appropriate superdrive = vintage/variant that FreeBSD would tolerate) if I've made it to the = login prompt and I had not mixed and matched distinct kernel and world = vintages for some reason then I've had no later troubles with panics, = hangups, or the like for 10.0 or 10.1 vintages that I've installed. >=20 > But that was after I removed all the PCI-Express cards (G5 quad-core) = but the video: My earlier attempts at using the pre-existing SATA cards = and SSD's/disks from them was unreliable even for simple console usage. = I took the direction of simplifying/removing stuff until what was left = just worked, such as the built-in SATA. I've not gone back yet to figure = out if I can make anything that I removed work well. (I'm still = learning/investigating other things for FreeBSD and am in no rush about = what I removed.) >=20 > I temporarily had my hands on a PowerMac G5 that would overheat if = kept busy. But its fan would be going faster than normal after warming = up while idle. The fans would go full speed well before the shutdown = when it would overheat. So that sort of issue is not a match to what you = report. >=20 >=20 > =3D=3D=3D > Mark Millard > markmi at dsl-only.net >=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ppc > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ppc-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >=20