From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 11 23:29:05 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8148916A46D for ; Mon, 11 Feb 2008 23:29:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rock_on_the_web@hotmail.com) Received: from bay0-omc1-s35.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc1-s35.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.107]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7335913C45D for ; Mon, 11 Feb 2008 23:29:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rock_on_the_web@hotmail.com) Received: from BAY143-W4 ([65.55.154.39]) by bay0-omc1-s35.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 11 Feb 2008 15:29:00 -0800 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [202.172.126.254] From: Da Rock To: Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 23:28:59 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <20080211234905.O6779@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <47AFC80B.8090303@gmail.com> <20080211211052.X5691@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <47B0AF73.6030901@chuckr.org> <200802112304.09906.jonathan+freebsd-questions@hst.org.za> <20080211211428.GA50577@aleph.cepheid.org> <20080211223155.C6199@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <47B0CDA1.9060801@student.utwente.nl> <20080211234905.O6779@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Feb 2008 23:29:00.0231 (UTC) FILETIME=[E14E0570:01C86D05] Subject: RE: what happened to linuxflashplugin? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 23:29:05 -0000 ---------------------------------------- > Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 23:52:26 +0100 > From: wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: what happened to linuxflashplugin? >=20 >> >>> this is just example of crap-design, >> >> I agree. Although I don't think everybody will. >=20 > i don't care what others think. >=20 >>> and i simply don't view them.. >> >> I'm afraid it's not that simple. Counterexample: >> >> When I was shopping for a new parachute rig, one of the manufacturers I = was >> interested in turned out to have a Flash-only website. I could of course >> have decided not to buy there because their website sucks, but when it >> comes to equipment that's supposed to be going to save my life hundreds = of >> times I'd much rather base the decision on the quality of the product th= an >> on the technical soundness of a website, thank you :-) >=20 > in case of things that has very few producers you are unfortunately true. > in every other, narrowing the offer to half won't be disastrous, and thos= e=20 > who made flash-only website will lose few% of potential clients. >=20 > with well designed website (i don't mean it can't have flash, but it must= =20 > be usable without) everybody will read. >=20 > and making all-compatible site isn't difficult. it's very easy And I agree wholeheartedly with both sentiments here. I design sites which = I hope will reach 98% of the web, including disability access, and will be = at least readable to browser that might not display content correctly. I th= ink its a sham how a lot of web design companies- particularly here in Aust= ralia- who take the "easy" way out and design poorly based on statistics an= d familiar tools. For reference any web designers out there: IE is not the number one browser= these days, and is losing ground because IE7 sucks (numerous bugs, includi= ng problems with interoperability with MSN Messenger!). Firefox is growing = as is OSS. So start changing guys! Adobe would do well to take note too.... What also can't understand is why web designers can't make better use of th= e tools available on the servers themselves- they seem to be stuck on simpl= e LAMP or whatever, and can't get around to using the other cool modules of= fered by apache to reduce load on the server and speed up response. It is a= complete system after all. Apologies for my rant, but trying to convince a customer on this is hard as= well :) _________________________________________________________________ Overpaid or Underpaid? Check our comprehensive Salary Centre http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=3Dhttp%3A%2F%2Fcontent%2Emycareer%2Ecom%= 2Eau%2Fsalary%2Dcentre%3Fs%5Fcid%3D595810&_t=3D766724125&_r=3DHotmail_Email= _Tagline_MyCareer_Oct07&_m=3DEXT=