From owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 10 08:15:33 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96FE0106564A for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2011 08:15:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E8AF8FC18 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2011 08:15:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm16 with SMTP id 16so18605373fxm.13 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2011 00:15:32 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=b5hllJyK1Ejrdj8YZG+80jakEbv7sEKbx+h1wAoMJm0=; b=hNltLET/UXQQP8FHs7jIRxRR2rlafcLaa5L0H5lwFLvvlxojMJ7ZJvlllw1Jm6zMf1 8DzXmhJqqAq7+Wc6JUyZuvXibm6fCoA+fzsQKFWL3TUsF3U537qMOIVDxPST9QBhOqGd g3O0LEcgCVzDymEfobiBS6xAIKSvAh+H4hjoY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=L0fIRdyW4T/NlEV9g2q4YJULTn+PfDffeld05CmVM8qcTzMQbwMxCSRohFsR/c6B3A V+2KPqTsJMp3J8+LuWk0VjB3m97DC05qKvn5i3TFdDf7EWKG83aJdg0I+Ys67dGOsBJT +FL++hbWroKJHHGI3ufQJFMoi+D1c4O2wtyFY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.85.204 with SMTP id p12mr3864763fal.146.1294647331983; Mon, 10 Jan 2011 00:15:31 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.223.114.4 with HTTP; Mon, 10 Jan 2011 00:15:31 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4D2AB270.2070109@mittelstaedt.us> References: <20100418191752.GA72730@triton8.kn-bremen.de> <20110107194516.GA28544@triton8.kn-bremen.de> <20110107213643.GA32645@triton8.kn-bremen.de> <20110109110022.GA10789@triton8.kn-bremen.de> <4D2A55F4.6010704@mittelstaedt.us> <4D2A9504.7070109@mittelstaedt.us> <4D2AB270.2070109@mittelstaedt.us> Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 02:15:31 -0600 Message-ID: From: Adam Vande More To: Ted Mittelstaedt Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Testing Luvalley with FreeBSD as dom0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Development of Emulators of other operating systems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 08:15:33 -0000 On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 1:17 AM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > Someone just gave you bad data, Adam. No that is incorrect. I got my data from MS when I tried to check it out. Our confusion I think is because we are talking about different products. I wasn't aware of the stand-alone free version of hyper-v server, thanks for the pointer. The Server 2008 Standard Edition version of Windows comes with a license to run a single VM. If you can follow the maze and find offical documentation of this, you've got farther than me, but here's a third party link indicating the situation. http://www.netometer.com/video/tutorials/microsoft-hyper-v-server-2008/ > It is a sure thing. Seriously. The emulated machine virtualization > isn't really commercially that interesting. Seriously! Oracle > makes plenty of money selling support and commercial versions of > VirtualBox that have the extra go-fast storage code in them such > as the one included with Oracle VDI. Are you talking about the guest additions or whatever Oracle calls them now? That doesn't necessarily speed up the VM, it just allows things like clock synchronization, SMB shares, VRPD, page fusion, and USB passthrough. As far as I know, while they are released under PUEL license you can't even buy them so it's hard to see how Oracle is raking in the money there. I see there is a blurb on their site about contacting Oracle for enterprise rollouts. I think as soon as they figure out how they can bill they will. At one point, Virtualbox was going to setup a "cloud" service that you could roll out images too and I think that's now defuct so another lost revenue stream. That actually would have been really nice, I would have used that one. > VirtualBox's main claim to fame is under FreeBSD it is stable. I've had > both Windows XP and FreeBSD guests running for months with no crash. That > makes it greatly suitable for production work. > Agreed, it's been rock solid for me even under periods of heavy use. -- Adam Vande More