From owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Thu Nov 5 04:39:19 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7B59A26492 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 2015 04:39:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.com) Received: from mail.soaustin.net (mail.soaustin.net [66.135.54.68]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD074199C; Thu, 5 Nov 2015 04:39:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.com) Received: by mail.soaustin.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id 29ABC56083; Wed, 4 Nov 2015 22:39:19 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2015 22:39:19 -0600 From: Mark Linimon To: Warner Losh Cc: sbruno@freebsd.org, Marius Strobl , freebsd-arch Subject: Re: Sparc64 doesn't care about you, and you shouldn't care about Sparc64 Message-ID: <20151105043919.GB20673@lonesome.com> References: <563A5893.1030607@freebsd.org> <2AAC0EF3-528B-476F-BA9C-CDC3004465D0@bsdimp.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <2AAC0EF3-528B-476F-BA9C-CDC3004465D0@bsdimp.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2015 04:39:19 -0000 On Wed, Nov 04, 2015 at 04:19:38PM -0700, Warner Losh wrote: > There was some work to get clang to do the right thing for sparc64. > Last I heard, the tree compiles with it. Our users who have tried it are not experienced enough to debug the problems. They would have to work with a developer. > Here’s a breakdown of commits in different parts of sys [...] > sparc64 rate of change has fallen way off since 2011, both in terms > of the number of commits, as well as the share of commits relative > to other platforms. True, but no new machines have been introduced in that time period. (Maybe this will be sufficient for some folks). So the commits are catchup commits to changes in other parts of the tree. So IMHO this is a _slightly_ biased metric compared to e.g. arm, where new machines seem to come out every day :-) tl;dr: if it's just Marius and I keeping it alive, that's clearly insufficient. mcl