From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 19 20: 7: 5 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from uni4nn.gn.iaf.nl (osmium.gn.iaf.nl [193.67.144.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9533A14E23 for ; Fri, 19 Mar 1999 20:06:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wilko@yedi.iaf.nl) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by uni4nn.gn.iaf.nl (8.9.2/8.9.2) with UUCP id EAA13693; Sat, 20 Mar 1999 04:54:45 +0100 (MET) Received: (from wilko@localhost) by yedi.iaf.nl (8.8.8/8.6.12) id AAA04338; Sat, 20 Mar 1999 00:28:27 +0100 (CET) From: Wilko Bulte Message-Id: <199903192328.AAA04338@yedi.iaf.nl> Subject: Re: Confusion In-Reply-To: <52314.921877837@zippy.cdrom.com> from "Jordan K. Hubbard" at "Mar 19, 99 01:10:37 pm" To: jkh@zippy.cdrom.com (Jordan K. Hubbard) Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 00:28:27 +0100 (CET) Cc: mwm@phone.net, stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Organisation: Private FreeBSD site - Arnhem, The Netherlands X-pgp-info: PGP public key at 'finger wilko@freefall.freebsd.org' X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL38 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG As Jordan K. Hubbard scribbled... > > that users are going to try and run your product on. Wise users have > > been avoiding .0 releases for production systems since - well, longer > > than I've been in the game. It's part of life in the software world, > > at least until that world undergoes some *radical* changes. > > Thank you, that's essentially what I've been trying to say in a far > less succinct fashion for the last 2 or 3 rounds. > > I also appreciate that it was pointed out that Windows 98 was hardly > any less buggy in its own way (or, for that matter, Win95) when first > released, the difference being that Microsoft was by no means as > honest about the bleeding-edge nature of these releases as we are. > They just hyped it to the skies and sold it like the shameless bunch > of jackals that they are. :-) > > I, on the other hand, warned people away from 3.0-RELEASE in multiple > emails, in the README, on the WEB site (www.cdrom.com was very clear > about 3.0-RELEASE's status in its mailed handouts and all promo > materials) and all I seem to have gotten for this degree of "honesty" > is a kick in the crotch and claims that users weren't adequately > warned. It's enough to make one wish for a nuclear war so that we > might perhaps redirect evolution to some more promising candidate. ;) Generations to come will probably learn, in addition to Heisenberg's principle the "Gates axioma": "one can sell, given enough marketing buzz, everything under the sun, irrespective of it's (lack of) quality." Maybe a second line will read: "And get filthy rich in the process". It might really be time to call in the Vogons ;-) -BTW: is this whole discussion not highly "-chat qualified" in the meantime? Groeten / Cheers, Wilko _ ______________________________________________________________________ | / o / / _ Arnhem, The Netherlands |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte WWW : http://www.tcja.nl _______________________ Powered by FreeBSD ___ http://www.freebsd.org _____ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message