From owner-freebsd-current Fri Dec 5 20:38:27 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id UAA16028 for current-outgoing; Fri, 5 Dec 1997 20:38:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from picnic.mat.net (picnic.mat.net [206.246.122.117]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id UAA16023 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 1997 20:38:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chuckr@glue.umd.edu) Received: from localhost (chuckr@localhost) by picnic.mat.net (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA06945; Fri, 5 Dec 1997 23:36:49 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: picnic.mat.net: chuckr owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 5 Dec 1997 23:36:43 -0500 (EST) From: Chuck Robey X-Sender: chuckr@picnic.mat.net To: Jim Bryant cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 3.0 -release ? In-Reply-To: <199712052119.PAA00957@unix.tfs.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 5 Dec 1997, Jim Bryant wrote: > In reply: > > > The second thing I think we need to consider is that in the longer > > > term, I can easily see a day where the ports and packages collection > > > have grown to the point where decoupling them from the primary FreeBSD > > > releases becomes essential in order that the "base system" remain > > > reasonably priced. This would also allow the ports collection to move > > > at its own release schedule, perhaps doing only 2 - 3 releases a year > > > and published in a format closer to Rich Morin's well known Prime Time > > > Freeware for UNIX CDs (http://www.ptf.com/ptf/products/UNIX). They > > > come with a nifty printed book containing alphabetized short > > > descriptions so you can look something up quickly before wasting your > > > time mounting the wrong CD, and I think the ports & packages > > > collection should do exactly the same thing. > > > > > > I like this. I think that there should be coordination with the > > OpenBSD and NetBSD folks to make sure they are usable "out of the box" > > for them as well. It could become simply "The BSD ports collection". > > > > You may want to coordinate with BSDI, if at all possible... > > > > This should probably wait for ELF, though, since all the other BSD's > > are ELF now... > > hmmmm... skip BSDI. they want to charge absurd amounts, so make them > pay for their own ports.. Isn't that kind of narrow-minded? Exactly the kind most people accuse many commercial companies of. FreeBSD is free, to all comers. Do you remember where doscmd came from? > > jim > -- > All opinions expressed are mine, if you | "I will not be pushed, stamped, > think otherwise, then go jump into turbid | briefed, debriefed, indexed, or > radioactive waters and yell WAHOO !!! | numbered!" - #1, "The Prisoner" > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Inet: jbryant@tfs.net AX.25: kc5vdj@wv0t.#neks.ks.usa.noam grid: EM28pw > voice: KC5VDJ - 6 & 2 Meters AM/FM/SSB, 70cm FM. http://www.tfs.net/~jbryant > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > HF/6M/2M: IC-706-MkII, 2M: HTX-212, 2M: HTX-202, 70cm: HTX-404, Packet: KPC-3+ > > ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@glue.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 213 Lakeside Drive Apt T-1 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run Journey2 and picnic, both FreeBSD (301) 220-2114 | version 3.0 current -- and great FUN! ----------------------------+-----------------------------------------------