From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Tue Oct 23 20:13:29 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE75BFFB08C; Tue, 23 Oct 2018 20:13:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-rwg@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net) Received: from pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net (br1.CN84in.dnsmgr.net [69.59.192.140]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 21CA38E6AF; Tue, 23 Oct 2018 20:13:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-rwg@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net) Received: from pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id w9NKDO6q023343; Tue, 23 Oct 2018 13:13:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd-rwg@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net) Received: (from freebsd-rwg@localhost) by pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id w9NKDOQC023342; Tue, 23 Oct 2018 13:13:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd-rwg) From: "Rodney W. Grimes" Message-Id: <201810232013.w9NKDOQC023342@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net> Subject: Re: ctm(1) deprecation in the FreeBSD base system? In-Reply-To: <201810231948.w9NJmYlC078288@fire.js.berklix.net> To: "Julian H. Stacey" Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2018 13:13:24 -0700 (PDT) CC: Warner Losh , Stefan Esser , "Montgomery-Smith, Stephen" , ctm-users@freebsd.org, Poul-Henning Kamp , FreeBSD Current , Ed Maste X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL121h (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2018 20:13:29 -0000 > A cost(=time)/benefit look on moving ctm from src/ to ports/ : > - No tangible architecture benefit (its not like purging an old driver > to makes kernel support simpler, or avoiding clashing libs etc) > - FreeBSD would shrink 0.028 % of the size of src/ > cd /pub/FreeBSD/branches/-current/src > du -s -k . # 1223922 > du -s -k `find . -type d -name \*ctm\*` > 196 ./usr.sbin/ctm > 74 ./usr.sbin/ctm/ctm > 12 ./usr.sbin/ctm/ctm_dequeue > 44 ./usr.sbin/ctm/ctm_rmail > 18 ./usr.sbin/ctm/ctm_smail > dc 196 74 12 44 18 + + + + p 344 > dc 344000000000 1223922 / p 281063 # then move 9 points > xcalc 344 / 1223922 # 0.0002810636 > > Those who would do the work might want to ponder if 0.028 % is best use of > their time, or if more fun & benefit to work on some other part of FreeBSD ? At the most/least we should not go very far, the only thing that needs done soon is a gonein(13) commited to head and MFC'ed to stable/12 by thursday. All the other details should wait until a depreication policy revision is completed that includes how to deal with this. -- Rod Grimes rgrimes@freebsd.org