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Date:      Tue, 23 Oct 2018 13:13:24 -0700 (PDT)
From:      "Rodney W. Grimes" <freebsd-rwg@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net>
To:        "Julian H. Stacey" <jhs@berklix.com>
Cc:        Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com>, Stefan Esser <se@freebsd.org>, "Montgomery-Smith,     Stephen" <stephen@missouri.edu>, ctm-users@freebsd.org, Poul-Henning Kamp <phk@phk.freebsd.dk>, FreeBSD Current <freebsd-current@freebsd.org>, Ed Maste <emaste@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: ctm(1) deprecation in the FreeBSD base system?
Message-ID:  <201810232013.w9NKDOQC023342@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net>
In-Reply-To: <201810231948.w9NJmYlC078288@fire.js.berklix.net>

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> A cost(=time)/benefit look on moving ctm from src/ to ports/ :
> - No tangible architecture benefit (its not like purging an old driver
>   to makes kernel support simpler, or avoiding clashing libs etc)
> - FreeBSD would shrink 0.028 % of the size of src/
> 	cd /pub/FreeBSD/branches/-current/src
> 	du -s -k .	# 1223922
> 	du -s -k `find . -type d -name \*ctm\*`
> 		196     ./usr.sbin/ctm
> 		74      ./usr.sbin/ctm/ctm
> 		12      ./usr.sbin/ctm/ctm_dequeue
> 		44      ./usr.sbin/ctm/ctm_rmail
> 		18      ./usr.sbin/ctm/ctm_smail
> 	dc 196 74 12 44 18 + + + + p 344
> 	dc 344000000000 1223922 / p 281063	# then move 9 points
> 	xcalc 344 / 1223922	# 0.0002810636
> 
> Those who would do the work might want to ponder if 0.028 % is best use of 
> their time, or if more fun & benefit to work on some other part of FreeBSD ?

At the most/least we should not go very far,
the only thing that needs done soon is a gonein(13) commited
to head and MFC'ed to stable/12 by thursday.

All the other details should wait until a depreication policy
revision is completed that includes how to deal with this.

-- 
Rod Grimes                                                 rgrimes@freebsd.org



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