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Date:      Fri, 1 Dec 1995 14:52:14 +0000 ()
From:      Michael Smith <msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au>
To:        spfarrel@midway.uchicago.edu
Cc:        questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: nfs install - space and packages required?
Message-ID:  <199512011452.OAA17320@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.SUN.3.91.951129153539.7811F-100000@espresso.eng.umd.edu> from "Chuck Robey" at Nov 29, 95 03:36:55 pm

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People are missing the point of this one 8(

> On Tue, 28 Nov 1995, Steve Farrell wrote:
> > i find it disturbing that after 15 minutes of looking at your web site
> > and ftp site, and going through the installation readmes, i can't find
> > the answer to the most basic question i have: WHICH PACKAGES DO I NEED
> > TO RETRIEVE TO PREPARE FOR AN NFS INSTALLATION, AND HOW MUCH SPACE DO
> > THEY REQUIRE?  i'd expect this to be a routine question.  with

Perhaps it is; still, you're the first person that I can recall ever
asking it.

> > slackware/linux, this is the first thing you see, and can prepare
> > accordingly.  i've found discussion of how to repartition your DOS
> > harddisk on the fly, yet it is not mentioned how much space is
> > required.  this seems very backwards to me.

There are just too many possible permutations to come up with a figure
for "required".  You can do a comfortable install onto a 100M disk, or
damn-near fill a 2G disk.

> > obviously i looked at the bin directory, and noticed several dozen files
> > with useless names.  why do you do this?  what's wrong with bin usr.bin
> > usr.local.bin and such like netbsd?  or what's wrong with having it

You can't install NetBSD from floppies; you can FreeBSD.  Note the size
of the files; a common factor of both 1.2 and 1.44MB.  

> > upfront which disk-sets are needed (a n ,etc like for slackware)? is
> > this a marketing scam to get people to buy your CDROM's?

Oh boy, you really have got it _all_ wrong.

> > sorry - i was just planning on putting freebsd on a revived 486 box, and
> > would like to prepare by downloading the required dirs onto my sparc, and
> > couldn't believe how frustrating it was to find out how much space i'd 
> > need, and what to get.

OK, get the floppies (obvious) bin (obvious) and manpages (obvious)
directories.  How hard is that?  That'll let you do a binaries-and-manpages
install.  If you want source, get the src (obvious) directory.  Likewise
info for GNU infopages, proflibs for profiled libraries, XF312 for X, 
packages for precompiles packages (big), ports for the ports tree (huge),
commercial for commercial demos, and so on.

> > Stephen Farrell				The Ben May Institute

Any help?

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