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Date:      Wed, 30 May 2001 15:22:38 -0500
From:      "Thomas T. Veldhouse" <veldy@veldy.net>
To:        <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: Should IPFilter be pulled from FreeBSD as well
Message-ID:  <002301c0e946$45b4c030$3028680a@tgt.com>
References:  <005e01c0e913$0803a180$3028680a@tgt.com> <20010530183940.A3569@snark.ptc.spbu.ru> <00c301c0e917$003b74b0$3028680a@tgt.com> <20010530113714.E76217@rand.tgd.net>

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The compiler and binary utilities are GPL.  As are many of the utilities
such as groff.

Tom Veldhouse
veldy@veldy.net

----- Original Message -----
From: <ipf=good_product-license_needs_enema@tgd.net>
To: <freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG>
Cc: "Thomas T. Veldhouse" <veldy@veldy.net>; "Valeriy E. Ushakov"
<uwe@ptc.spbu.ru>
Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 1:37 PM
Subject: Re: Should IPFilter be pulled from FreeBSD as well


> <rant reasion="I've run into the ipf license before">
> I regularly use FreeBSD as the base for products/projects and
> am a little erk'ed that ipf resides in the base system with a very
> restrictive license that prevents me from using it.  A large number of
> clients that I have worked with in the past require the ability to
> resell (or own 100%) binary versions of whatever solution I've created
> (who-hoo government!).  Cleaning out ipf from the source tree isn't
> tough, but it's time consuming and ticks me off.  Base BSD should have
> the BSD license, yes?
> </rant>
>
> With that in mind, I'm 200% in favor of moving it to the ports
> tree, kernel source hooks and all.  Cleaning out ipf from the source
> tree last time wasn't tough, but not my idea of a picnic.
>
> > Nothing in that article has convinced me that FreeBSD developers can
> > change the source at their will and distribute it -- according to
> > the IPFilter licence.  That right should be implicit in ALL FreeBSD
> > system level source code.
> >
> > > > It is being pulled from OpenBSD for what seems like a pretty good
> > > > reason to me.
> > >
> > > Please, see this message from Darren to NetBSD's current-users.
> > >
> > >     http://mail-index.netbsd.org/current-users/2001/05/30/0004.html
> > >
> > > | I have cleared this up with core@netbsd.org and whilst they appear
to
> > > | be happy that any problems have been resolved, another effort is
> > > | required so that core@netbsd.org can convey this to NetBSD users in
a
> > > | meaningful way.  A similar message will also be sent to the FreeBSD
> > > | people as I've also been working with core@freebsd.org to resolve
any
> > > | issues they had.
>


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