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Date:      Tue, 25 Mar 2003 08:09:14 -0700
From:      "Bluezmo" <bluezmo@earthlink.net>
To:        <newbies@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   RE: Hmm
Message-ID:  <JMEAJACIKMIJMPNGDNNJMEHBCAAA.bluezmo@earthlink.net>
In-Reply-To: <DB10DAB3-5B48-11D7-985D-000393987852@mac.com>

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Thanks to all that kindly responded to my query.  I've decided to install
Linux rather than mess with BSD at the present time.  I'm doing so because
it appears that I may have a better chance of achieving an install with more
devices functioning.  However, I did want to thank you all because you did
respond with some insightful suggestions.

To the people that suggested I run OS X on my Mac I need to say that I
already do & am aware of Darwin's presence.  However, the superior GUI of
the Macintosh distracts me from interacting with the command prompt.  I will
delve into the reading material suggested to learn more.

Thanks to All,

The Bluez

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG
[mailto:owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Basil Bourque
Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 7:58 PM
To: newbies@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject: Re: Hmm



On Thursday, Mar 20, 2003, at 15:58 US/Pacific, John Murphy wrote:

>> I have several computers, Windows & Macintosh & want to learn
>> UNIX.
>
> You will have a lot of fun.  Can you run OS ten on that Mac?

Yes, as an old-time Mac user I can vouch that Mac OS X is a great way
to dabble in Unix while still enjoying a usable computer.

All the Unix stuff you learn on Mac OS X is directly applicable to BSD.
And vice-versa, you can read about Unix stuff and try it out on your
Mac.
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/

Tips:

- Install Jaguar (Mac OS X 10.2.x), not 10.1.x. Jaguar had many tweaks
and fixes for Unix and related network stuff. Upgrade to the latest
10.2.4.
http://www.apple.com/macosx/

- Learn about Apple's Terminal program. The book publisher O'Reilly has
some great online articles for learning the Terminal and other Mac-Unix
stuff.
http://macdevcenter.com/
http://www.macdevcenter.com/pub/a/mac/collections/unix.html

- The shell used by default in Apple's Terminal is "tcsh", rather than
the more common 'bash'. If you really want detail about tcsh, look at
this O'Reilly book:
http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/tcsh

- All the Unix stuff is built-in to Mac OS X, as is Java. You don't
need to add any downloads except do all the suggested updates in
Apple's "Software Update" system prefs panel. If you ever want
compilers, Apple has a separate large "Developer Tools" download.

--Basil


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