From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 2 00:24:41 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 596DD1065680 for ; Wed, 2 Apr 2008 00:24:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danny@ricin.com) Received: from smtpq2.groni1.gr.home.nl (smtpq2.groni1.gr.home.nl [213.51.130.201]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E03428FC13 for ; Wed, 2 Apr 2008 00:24:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danny@ricin.com) Received: from [213.51.130.140] (port=60124 helo=mx2.groni1.gr.home.nl) by smtpq2.groni1.gr.home.nl with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JgpnZ-0007WK-BZ for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 02 Apr 2008 01:21:49 +0200 Received: from cp1228410-a.dbsch1.nb.home.nl ([84.27.119.97]:57855 helo=desktop.homenet) by mx2.groni1.gr.home.nl with smtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JgpnX-0006mn-PA for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 02 Apr 2008 01:21:49 +0200 Received: by desktop.homenet (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Wed, 2 Apr 2008 01:20:33 +0200 From: "Danny Pansters" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 01:20:33 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <16d3abd60804010444q3936889m436e979276f23ad8@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: X-Face: (Zs+'ncTcchkOX|~t6{?Iii=O!G#WEK!+OD0|-F=i%1pvP5V_Sz4PaJC8o)=?utf-8?q?MiSnH/JMJFy=0A=09oBN-My?=, v":S7, (=?utf-8?q?mmkPm=27U=7BMgT+eM=2EBd=5Cp/P!dr=5DhOTXqpse21O!=25Ct=60SE=2EOodq?= =?utf-8?q?=5Dry=5E=23kU=5E=0A=09-?=GT.[8D}i$6P>=" =?utf-8?q?=23=0A=09*J+4d=7E?= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200804020120.33481.danny@ricin.com> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Subject: Re: FreeBSD installation on AMD64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2008 00:24:41 -0000 On Tuesday 01 April 2008 15:06:24 Ivan Voras wrote: > S=E9bastien Morand wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I'm new in FreeBSD, I'm used to GNU/Linux from many years but I'm trying > > to migrate to FreeBSD. > > My hardware is AMD64 / 1GB RAM / envy24ht network car / nVidia 7300GS GC > > / USB Scanner / HP 660 Printer > > This looks like a desktop computer, with multimedia capabilities. It's > very likely you won't be able to use some or all of the non-essential > components. > > > So nothing to worry about except the AMD64. I read that FreeBSD i386 > > installation is faster on AMD64 than amd64. > > This is not very likely, or at least as valid as in any other comparison > between a 32-bit and a 64-bit operating systems. > > > I installed amd64 and was quite > > disappointed by the performance issue, particularly because the nv driv= er > > is not good, and I got a lot of slowdown when some operations are made > > within X server. > > Yes, nVidia doesn't have good FreeBSD drivers, and I think they don't > have any drivers for 64-bit FreeBSD. You're probably using the default As you should know, they have a published wishlist of certain kernel=20 requirements that "we" have yet to implement. > X.Org drivers, which have only basic functionality. I found that with a gforce (SLI) card in my amd64 box I have to disable any= =20 and all HW acceleration. The xorg drivers have more functionality but it=20 needs to be disabled for xorg to work at all without freezing (with anythin= g=20 multithreaded -- this last observation is mine). People send one complaint after another but no one seems to be able to conn= ect=20 the dots let alone look at the real problems. And no, I don't care enough=20 about my spare (testing) box to fix it but the problems are real. > > > So before reinstalling everything, I'd like to know : > > Is it a reasonable choice (in terme of performance, reliability, and > > compatibility terms) to install i386 over amd64 arch? > > Will I be able to install nvidia drivers and every i386 tools? (I got > > "only working under i386" several times when installing port) > > Are there other issues I should be aware of using such an installation? > > While there are people using FreeBSD for a graphical desktop, and some > of them are even using the 64-bit version, they are few and far between, > and most of them are satisfied with the bare essentials. For X.Org > issues you might try the freebsd-x11@ mailing list. For issues with > specific ports, try stable@ or freebsd-ports@. Be ready for a lot of > manual configuration (as compared to Linux). It's considered TIER-1. It doesn't come close. Dan