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Date:      Wed, 2 Apr 2008 01:20:33 +0200
From:      "Danny Pansters" <danny@ricin.com>
To:        freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: FreeBSD installation on AMD64
Message-ID:  <200804020120.33481.danny@ricin.com>
In-Reply-To: <fstc0h$bdn$1@ger.gmane.org>
References:  <16d3abd60804010444q3936889m436e979276f23ad8@mail.gmail.com> <fstc0h$bdn$1@ger.gmane.org>

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On Tuesday 01 April 2008 15:06:24 Ivan Voras wrote:
> S=E9bastien Morand wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I'm new in FreeBSD, I'm used to GNU/Linux from many years but I'm trying
> > to migrate to FreeBSD.
> > My hardware is AMD64 / 1GB RAM / envy24ht network car / nVidia 7300GS GC
> > / USB Scanner / HP 660 Printer
>
> This looks like a desktop computer, with multimedia capabilities. It's
> very likely you won't be able to use some or all of the non-essential
> components.
>
> > So nothing to worry about except the AMD64. I read that FreeBSD i386
> > installation is faster on AMD64 than amd64.
>
> This is not very likely, or at least as valid as in any other comparison
> between a 32-bit and a 64-bit operating systems.
>
> > I installed amd64 and was quite
> > disappointed by the performance issue, particularly because the nv driv=
er
> > is not good, and I got a lot of slowdown when some operations are made
> > within X server.
>
> Yes, nVidia doesn't have good FreeBSD drivers, and I think they don't
> have any drivers for 64-bit FreeBSD. You're probably using the default

As you should know, they have a published wishlist of certain kernel=20
requirements that "we" have yet to implement.

> X.Org drivers, which have only basic functionality.

I found that with a gforce (SLI) card in my amd64 box I have to disable any=
=20
and all HW acceleration. The xorg drivers have more functionality but it=20
needs to be disabled for xorg to work at all without freezing (with anythin=
g=20
multithreaded -- this last observation is mine).

People send one complaint after another but no one seems to be able to conn=
ect=20
the dots let alone look at the real problems. And no, I don't care enough=20
about my spare (testing) box to fix it but the problems are real.

>
> > So before reinstalling everything, I'd like to know :
> > Is it a reasonable choice (in terme of performance, reliability, and
> > compatibility terms) to install i386 over amd64 arch?
> > Will I be able to install nvidia drivers and every i386 tools? (I got
> > "only working under i386" several times when installing port)
> > Are there other issues I should be aware of using such an installation?
>
> While there are people using FreeBSD for a graphical desktop, and some
> of them are even using the 64-bit version, they are few and far between,
> and most of them are satisfied with the bare essentials. For X.Org
> issues you might try the freebsd-x11@ mailing list. For issues with
> specific ports, try stable@ or freebsd-ports@. Be ready for a lot of
> manual configuration (as compared to Linux).

It's considered TIER-1. It doesn't come close.

Dan



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