From owner-freebsd-hubs Mon May 7 15: 8:42 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from electra.cse.Buffalo.EDU (electra.cse.Buffalo.EDU [128.205.32.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D179037B423 for ; Mon, 7 May 2001 15:08:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kensmith@cse.Buffalo.EDU) Received: (from kensmith@localhost) by electra.cse.Buffalo.EDU (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA16585 for hubs@freebsd.org; Mon, 7 May 2001 18:08:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Ken Smith Message-Id: <200105072208.SAA16585@electra.cse.Buffalo.EDU> Subject: Re: We seriously need a cleanup on ftp-master To: hubs@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 18:08:30 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <20010507164650.J3246@casimir.physics.purdue.edu> from "Will Andrews" at May 07, 2001 04:46:50 PM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL0] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > From owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 7 17:51:53 2001 > To: "David O'Brien" > Subject: Re: We seriously need a cleanup on ftp-master > > I simply think it's inconvenient for mirror operators to host bits that > are not obtained even one-tenth of 1% of the time as the newest > releases/packages. Not everyone has 50GB of disk space to dedicate > to FreeBSD, and I don't see a reason to expect that. :) > There is another advantage as well. Even if I've got 50Gb of disk space to contribute to the cause I can set up mirroring of the primary tree every night and the [painful] archive section weekly if there is a clean separation between the two. IMO deciding the purpose of the FTP site before deciding what goes in it seems wise. I'd propose there actually be two purposes. Primary purpose is supporting people interested in the current stuff, secondary purpose is archival. Perhaps as a starting point: - supports FTP-based install procedure for two (frozen) releases - ports installation for same - support for -stable and -current - easy access to some set of current source files, perhaps as "single tarballs" analogous to snapshots (don't break up the tar files to make them easier to understand for novice) - support tools The rest moves to an archive area and/or available only via CVSup. ken To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message