From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 22 23:12:03 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 70E4E7C0 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2014 23:12:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gromit.grondar.org (grandfather.grondar.org [IPv6:2a01:348:0:15:5d59:5c20:0:2]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 383BD85 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2014 23:12:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [2001:470:9174:1:178:bba0:7b1:d5c2] by gromit.grondar.org with esmtpsa (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.84 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1XsJqS-000PMK-37; Sat, 22 Nov 2014 23:12:01 +0000 Subject: Re: svn commit: r274739 - head/sys/mips/conf Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.1 \(1993\)) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: Mark R V Murray In-Reply-To: <86ioi7ufva.fsf@nine.des.no> Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2014 23:11:58 +0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <5110F41E-AFC7-4759-A8CF-2D962352C006@grondar.org> References: <201411200552.sAK5qnXP063073@svn.freebsd.org> <20141120084832.GE24601@funkthat.com> <20141121092245.GI99957@funkthat.com> <1416582989.1147.250.camel@revolution.hippie.lan> <026FEB8A-CA8C-472F-A8E4-DA3D0AC44B34@grondar.org> <86ioi7ufva.fsf@nine.des.no> To: =?utf-8?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=C3=B8rgrav?= X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1993) X-SA-Score: -1.0 Cc: "freebsd-arch@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2014 23:12:03 -0000 > On 22 Nov 2014, at 20:42, Dag-Erling Sm=C3=B8rgrav wrote: >=20 > Mark R V Murray writes: >> Why not just use rsh? If the security overhead is onerous, don=E2=80=99= t use it. >=20 > The flower said I wish I were a tree / the tree said I wish I could be = a > different kind of tree /the cat wished that it was a bee / the SO = wished > that he could kill / rsh and rlogin=E2=80=A6 Hehehehe! I still like using these in isolated nets where external hackery is of = no concern, and something low-maintenance/overhead is needed. Its been a = while since I did this, I admit, but I=E2=80=99d hate to lose them. They = are, after all, disabled by default, as is telnet. Some time ago I had a separate =E2=80=9Cbackbone=E2=80=9D net on which = my NFS mounts operated. I also ran various inter-box jobs using rsh so I = didn=E2=80=99t have to deal with crypto overhead. The single = outward-facing connection was heavily secured. I'd prefer to see r-utils maintained as part of the core OS, but if = there was a maintained port, I guess I could tolerate that. :-) M --=20 Mark R V Murray