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Date:      Fri, 20 Jan 2017 15:34:42 -0500 (EST)
From:      doug@safeport.com
To:        Warren Block <wblock@wonkity.com>
Cc:        Markus Hoenicka <markus.hoenicka@mhoenicka.de>, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Second attempt at FreeBSD-11.0-RELEASE-i386, Xorg, and Xfce graphical desktop
Message-ID:  <alpine.BSF.2.20.1701201522070.17428@fledge.watson.org>
In-Reply-To: <alpine.BSF.2.20.1701200952300.37959@wonkity.com>
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On Fri, 20 Jan 2017, Warren Block wrote:

> On Thu, 19 Jan 2017, Markus Hoenicka wrote:
>
>> Turns out to be a case of not RTFM. I do not use a display manager. 
>> Instead, I run startxfce4 from the console after logging in. The XFCE docs 
>> say to use startxfce4 --with-ck-launch in this case:
>> 
>> http://docs.xfce.org/xfce/xfce4-session/advanced
>> 
>> Things may work out of the box if you use a display manager.
>
> I do not use a display manager either, not worth the effort for me. Just 
> startx.
>
> My .xinitrc has this:
>
>  # WB: map the Zap combination
>  setxkbmap -option terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp
>
>  exec /usr/local/bin/startxfce4 --with-ck-launch

At least with 10.3 packages, this has all been cleared up. I like and use xdm 
because my workstations and laptops have multiple accounts. My only issue was 
that xfce has a requirement of dbus-1.8.20. This makes installing firefox and 
thunderbird somewhat challenging and rules out pidgin. I have updated Firefox 
requirements in the past with not so good results to xfce. As I am 1,000 miles 
from my workstation, I will wait to give this a try. 11.0 sadly did not support 
the NIC on my laptop. All else went without issue just install necessary 
packages.

Startx out of the box only installing xorg and xfce runs twm. WIFI on this (a 
4-5 year old Dell Insprion has never been supported FBSDs 8-11).



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