From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 27 18:57:45 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBE3F37B401; Mon, 27 Jan 2003 18:57:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from sccrmhc03.attbi.com (sccrmhc03.attbi.com [204.127.202.63]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3F6643F43; Mon, 27 Jan 2003 18:57:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from swear@attbi.com) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([12.242.158.67]) by sccrmhc03.attbi.com (sccrmhc03) with ESMTP id <2003012802574100300jhegre>; Tue, 28 Jan 2003 02:57:42 +0000 Received: from localhost.localdomain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.localdomain (8.12.6/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h0S2tJm9047874; Mon, 27 Jan 2003 18:55:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from swear@attbi.com) Received: (from jojo@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.12.6/8.12.5/Submit) id h0S2tDI5047871; Mon, 27 Jan 2003 18:55:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from swear@attbi.com) X-Authentication-Warning: localhost.localdomain: jojo set sender to swear@attbi.com using -f To: "Greg 'groggy' Lehey" Cc: Bill Moran , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: trouble brewing over the UNIX thing again... References: <3E309AA0.3020705@ocsny.com> <20030124030130.GB61607@rot13.obsecurity.org> <20030126074338.GB1606@sydney.worldwide.lemis.com> <3E341113.3080304@potentialtech.com> <20030127040154.GK94229@wantadilla.lemis.com> <3E34D2D9.8010209@potentialtech.com> <56y956jrqn.956@localhost.localdomain> <20030128005318.GF56320@wantadilla.lemis.com> From: swear@attbi.com (Gary W. Swearingen) Date: 27 Jan 2003 18:55:12 -0800 In-Reply-To: <20030128005318.GF56320@wantadilla.lemis.com> Message-ID: Lines: 22 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.1 (Cuyahoga Valley) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Greg 'groggy' Lehey writes: > Which secret agreements? The license is public, and it doesn't leave > any space for secret agreements. The secret agreements which presumably allowed UCB and BSDi to continue using Unix code without getting sued over it. Permission which I've not seen extended to the rest of us by its owner, as has been done for the older versions of Unix. We're trusting that UCB or BSDi have published the code under its owner's license and that the published licenses are valid and can be interpreted to cover patents as well as copyrights. People with much at stake should "trust, but verify". Call this FUD if you will; FUD is an accurate description, in my mind. > Could we now please take this off -questions? Continue on advocacy@ > if you want. I already started and finished my thread on -chat, joining this thread only after you and Bill had each added to it twice. How dare you tell others to hide their replies in another list? If you want to object to a thread, do that in your first reply and without an on-topic comment; it's only fair, thank you. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message