From owner-cvs-all Wed Jun 30 16:14: 6 1999 Delivered-To: cvs-all@freebsd.org Received: from dt054n86.san.rr.com (dt054n86.san.rr.com [24.30.152.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8925F153CC; Wed, 30 Jun 1999 16:13:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Doug@gorean.org) Received: from localhost (doug@localhost) by dt054n86.san.rr.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA04663; Wed, 30 Jun 1999 16:13:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Doug@gorean.org) Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 16:13:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug X-Sender: doug@dt054n86.san.rr.com To: Andrew Reilly Cc: "Brian F. Feldman" , Chris Piazza , Kris Kennaway , cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cvs commit: ports LEGAL In-Reply-To: <19990701084530.A60540@gurney.reilly.home> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Thu, 1 Jul 1999, Andrew Reilly wrote: > On Wed, Jun 30, 1999 at 01:41:04PM -0400, Brian F. Feldman wrote: > > I think we need a new ports category. These kinds of things would be nice... > > Why would any cls implementation be any nicer than the "clear" > command that's been in Unix since we graduated from hardcopy > terminals? (Well, maybe not that long, but it's been a while.) This whole concept originated from a discussion on the -newbies list about how to clear the scroll back buffer from a console terminal. The 'clear' command does not do that. I can appreciate that veteran users would look at this with a, "Well why don't you just...?" perspective, but I'm rather disappointed at the large number of people who chose to comment (often derisively) without even bothering to understand the issues at hand (which were discussed in the port's documentation). At the same time, the large number of people who commented with helpful responses and suggestions are appreciated, and will help encourage new users to make contributions. Perhaps someone could suggest to the author how to get the number used for scrollback so that his program could be more useful and more flexible? Or perhaps suggest a better way to accomplish his goal? Also, I agree that a collection of "Stupid user tricks" (sorry Dave :) like this would be a good thing, however I don't think that the ports are the place for it. How about some handbook pages? Doug -- On account of being a democracy and run by the people, we are the only nation in the world that has to keep a government four years, no matter what it does. -- Will Rogers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message