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Date:      Thu, 24 Apr 2008 11:55:45 +0100 (BST)
From:      Robert Watson <rwatson@FreeBSD.org>
To:        Brooks Davis <brooks@FreeBSD.org>
Cc:        cvs-src@FreeBSD.org, src-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: cvs commit: src/etc/defaults rc.conf
Message-ID:  <20080424115327.V22132@fledge.watson.org>
In-Reply-To: <200804232240.m3NMexsf070598@repoman.freebsd.org>
References:  <200804232240.m3NMexsf070598@repoman.freebsd.org>

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On Wed, 23 Apr 2008, Brooks Davis wrote:

> brooks      2008-04-23 22:40:59 UTC
>
>  FreeBSD src repository
>
>  Modified files:
>    etc/defaults         rc.conf
>  Log:
>  Revert rev 1.332 and keep ddb scripts off by default for now.  Minidumps
>  are more flexable and much text-dump like output can be produced from
>  them so there's a good argument they are a better default.

I think a contrast is being set up here that isn't quite the case: DDB scripts 
work fine with minidumps *and* textdumps, so the choice is not "DDB scripts or 
minidumps", it's "textdumps or minidumps".  Someone(tm) needs to add support 
to ddb(8) to extract the DDB textdump buffer from a minidump, in which case 
you might well want a crash-time script that captures, say, witness output 
data, and then saves it in the minidump to be extracted after reboot.  I'm 
fine with the default remaining minidumps, but think we should make sure to 
think of the various elements of my recent DDB work (output capture, 
scripting, and textdumps) as separable and reusable.

Robert N M Watson
Computer Laboratory
University of Cambridge



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