From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 20 16:21:35 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D62CD16A4CF for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 16:21:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from rdsnet.ro (smtp.rdsnet.ro [62.231.74.130]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D375A43D50 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 16:21:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from itetcu@apropo.ro) Received: (qmail 7816 invoked from network); 21 Dec 2003 00:21:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO it.buh.cameradicommercio.ro) (81.196.25.19) by mail.rdsnet.ro with SMTP; 21 Dec 2003 00:21:32 -0000 Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 02:22:32 +0200 From: Ion-Mihai Tetcu To: Stephen Hurd Message-Id: <20031221022232.6479962c.itetcu@apropo.ro> In-Reply-To: <20031220173023.1cbf4bf7.shurd@sasktel.net> References: <20031219105400.GA39759@comp.chem.msu.su> <20031219145435.GA31800@falcon.midgard.homeip.net> <20031220230241.65e83029.itetcu@apropo.ro> <20031220173023.1cbf4bf7.shurd@sasktel.net> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.6claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Archiver packages on FreeBSD CD 1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 00:21:36 -0000 On Sat, 20 Dec 2003 17:30:23 -0600 Stephen Hurd wrote: > On Sat, 20 Dec 2003 23:02:41 +0200 > Ion-Mihai Tetcu wrote: > > > > The "modern needs" of people can vary quite widely. > > > > If you interact with the win world unzip and unrar are needed; > > perhaps unace to. > > Hrm... afaik, the install CDs aren't designed to allow you to interact > with anyone except (possibly) users. > > If you are going to be interacting with > windows on a regular basis, odds are that you're going to have an > internet connection... which... if you do, you can add these packages > via sysinstall or simply > pkg_add -r unzip > pkg_add -r unrar > pkg_add -r unace yeh, yeh > The install CDs (again, my personal opinion) are there only to get you > a system that you can use... not one that does everything you need > (They don't include PostgreSQL!) Well, we have a mini iso that is supposed to allow you to get the system up and cvsup, pkg_add, portupgrade, etc. for the rest. End every now and then new-commers will ask what is on the install CD. After which we'll nicely point them to cvsup, pkg_*, port*. > Regarding archive formats, if I want to interact with the win world > (which I do on a regular business... my workstation at work is > Windows) only one person out of literally hundreds have sent me a rar > file... and that person was more than happy (and defilately equipped) > to sent me a zip instead. > > I have never ran across a ace archive. >From my experience they tend to be smaller that rar3 and much smaller that zips. > Whereas I could see a mild use for unzip before an internet connection > was established, I personally see no need for unrar and unace... > as far as I'm > concerned, bzip2, gzip, compress, and unzip would be all could be > "needed" a must > Of course, if you feel like bikeshedding, I could bring up stuffit... :) Beeing one who burned 4.7R distfiles on cd's, I don't wanna get into that :) -- IOnut Unregistered ;) FreeBSD user