From owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 29 16:32:21 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3210106566C for ; Thu, 29 May 2008 16:32:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@sopwith.solgatos.com) Received: from parsely.rain.com (parsely.rain.com [199.26.172.196]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BC638FC22 for ; Thu, 29 May 2008 16:32:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@sopwith.solgatos.com) Received: from sopwith.solgatos.com (uucp@localhost) by parsely.rain.com (8.11.4/8.11.4) with UUCP id m4TGWI511086 for freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org; Thu, 29 May 2008 09:32:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd@sopwith.solgatos.com) Received: from localhost by sopwith.solgatos.com (8.8.8/6.24) id QAA02675; Thu, 29 May 2008 16:30:33 GMT Message-Id: <200805291630.QAA02675@sopwith.solgatos.com> To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 29 May 2008 14:38:44 BST." <1212068324.10665.59.camel@localhost> Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 09:30:33 +0100 From: Dieter Subject: Re: TV-Tuner cards ( NTSC / PAL / SECAM ) - which works best? X-BeenThere: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Multimedia discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 16:32:22 -0000 > > I was thinking Xv and XvMC. IIUC the penguins have at least Xv working > > with some ATI chips. > > Xv and Xvideo work well with both the beasty and the penguin, at least > for intel, nvidia (closed source). Xv/Xvideo are good for displaying > video (its a good overlay api), not so good for accelerating codecs. According to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X_video_extension Xv does scaling and color space conversions in hardware. Doesn't help with codec decoding. On the other hand, it should work with any codec. > XvMC works on nvidia, intel and via unichrome - I expect the new open > source ati drivers will support it as well, sooner rather than later, > but that does no good for anything other than MPEG-2, and from what I've > read, is virtually no use for H264.=20 A lot of material is in mpeg2. All US OTA DTV is mpeg2. IIRC most DVDs and some HD-DVD & Blu-Ray are mpeg2. IIRC most cable and sat are mpeg2 though that may change over time. > If you are fortunate enough though to > get HD content in MPEG-2 format, XvMC is the meal-ticket. I hope you are right about open source ATI drivers supporting XvMC soon. The sooner the better. In a few months our analog broadcasts go dark, so TVs and VCRs stop working. They are selling converter boxes, but everything I've read about them indicates that they are wintel quality crap that crash. :-( Most don't have s-video out. And they don't timeshift. The best solution seems to be building a BSD DVR. Recording DTV takes very little CPU (disk space is another matter) but decoding takes a lot.